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To: dirtboy
Do me a favor. Go back and check when your first post about illegal immigration was. Now I know that there were occasional discussions about it on FR, but for goodness sake, Bush campaigned about this in both 2000 and 2004 and there was hardly a peep here!

So why has this become such an all-out war on FR and within the party? Why can't we discuss the solution rationally? Slogans are fine, but "enforcing the law" isn't really the solution, considering the stupid laws Clinton passed.

I think that if we don't get a handle on this, things are going to get worse, particularly if the Marxist wind the Mexican election in July. Rather than finding fault with each other, can we not discuss the solutions without everyone going off the deep end?

For example, if tonight the President calls for first securing the border and then a guest worker program next year, how many will simply say "too late, he won't enforce it, he doesn't mean it, etc?"

579 posted on 05/15/2006 8:09:39 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Miss Marple
Do me a favor. Go back and check when your first post about illegal immigration was.

Actually, I used to me more neutral on the issue until the anti-illegal immigration camp made the case as to how important the issue was.

Now I know that there were occasional discussions about it on FR, but for goodness sake, Bush campaigned about this in both 2000 and 2004 and there was hardly a peep here! So why has this become such an all-out war on FR and within the party?

Mainly because it is now being actively legislated. Before, it was just a proposal - and back then, folks were saying we needed to secure the borders and hold off on any amnesty. But the threat of legislation tends to bring out folks on all sides - we didn't see hundreds of thousands of illegals in the street 18 months ago, either.

For example, if tonight the President calls for first securing the border and then a guest worker program next year, how many will simply say "too late, he won't enforce it, he doesn't mean it, etc?"

Oh, some will, because Bush hasn't done a very good job on both border security and internal enforcement. If he outlines a serious proposal to improve border security and defers his guest worker proposal, that will be good enough for me - but I will also be looking to see if he follows through on it.

598 posted on 05/15/2006 8:14:23 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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