BUSH: WE CAN'T BOOT 11M ILLEGALS

NY Post ^ | 5/15/06

[areafiftyone]

May 15, 2006 -- WASHINGTON - In his live, nationally televised address tonight, President Bush will tell Americans that it's impossible to deport the estimated 11 million illegal aliens living here.

"We must reject amnesty, but recognize that it is not realistic to round up millions of people and send them home," said White House spokeswoman Maria Tamburri in a preview of Bush's speech.

She said Bush plans to spell out his vision for sealing the border, enforcing the law, and "creating a rational system for workers to come into our country and to do jobs Americans won't do." Bush plans to visit the U.S.-Mexican border this week, and will dispatch his Cabinet to help sell the immigration plan.

The Senate plans to return to the contentious issue this week now that Republicans and Democrats have a deal to plow through controversial amendments. But the House and Senate are far apart on whether to put illegals on a path to citizenship.

Tamburri said Bush would call for "better equipment, increased funding, and advanced technology" to secure the border.

She didn't confirm press reports that Bush wants to expand deployments of National Guard Troops to step up border enforcement. Some Guard troops are already deployed in Arizona and New Mexico, but Bush is considering a big increase.

White House National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley said that enforcement was the Border Patrol's job - but then asked whether they needed help from the Guard on an "interim basis."

"This is not about militarizing the border," he said. The president is looking to do everything he can to secure the border. It's what the American people want."

[VRWC_PA]

Wow - here's a thought.

When I was fifteen, I worked three minimum wage jobs to save money to buy my first car and pay for my own car insurance. After school I washed cars at the local car wash, later at night I put plastic bottles on an assembly line, and cleaned a printing factory on weekends. I worked all through high school. I learned the value of a dollar, and how hard work was rewarded. Eventually, I became V-P of the company that I had swept floors at. I went to college at nights, while maintaining a full time job and family obligations. I have worked every year since. I gradually realized that I was a conservative Republican.

My sister, never worked a day through high school or college. After graduating college she discovered she was "overqualified" and took a number of menial jobs until she went into government "social services." She is a liberal Democrat.

Those jobs I worked at in my youth are probably the same jobs that the President refers to as the ones "Americans don't want to do." Boy, I sure wanted to do them. I am glad the opportunity was there for me.

[Tokra]

Get rid of their employers and don't allow them on welfare and they will have to leave

Once again - they can't and don't get welfare. Only legally admitted aliens who have been in the US for at least 5 years are eligible for welfare.

[brytlea]

Yes, it's actually rather like diffusion. Migration from an area of high concentration into an area of lower concentration, until you get a steady state (ie, we and Mexico are equally poor). Our border should be selectively permiable.
susie

[null and void]

Which would give rise to chip implants.

I'd go for chip and ship.

Any time we catch an illegal alien, he/she gets chipped and shipped back to the country of origin.

Once someone has been chipped they can never become a US citizen, and are subject to immediate deportation, should they ever be caught within our borders again.

[Remember-the-Alamo-1836]

"US is not going to drag women and children out of homes "that doesnt make for good press"

Hmmm....I seem to recall a Cuban kid named Elian Gonzalez being given the bum's rush back to Havana by Janet Reno a few years ago and the bad press and photos of gun-toting, scary-looking feds in SS-style black helmets didn't seem to slow them down a bit. (And this was for an alien most Americans didn't want to deport!)

Isn't it stunning to realize that the Clinonista's had more gumption than the Bushies do when it comes to deporting aliens?

[McGavin999]

and where were all of the complainers back then?

Right here Miss M. We've been screaming for a long time but nobody has listened to us. It became national and involved the president when he chose to join in. His "jobs Americans won't do" is insulting to those of us who have done those jobs. When he says "A leader leads" I want to scream "Please Mr. President, look behind you, because the only ones following you are the enemy". I've gotten to the point where I have to leave the room because I can no longer listen to him say these things.

I LIVE here in Arizona with this problem every day. I watch fellow freepers who I love and respect, taking a side they know nothing about. What you can see is only the beginning, it's what we saw 10 years ago.

[Coldwater Creek]

If you don't respond to people like me, then why did I get your ping Hmmmmmmmmmm

[processing please hold]

Some days, I ask myself.....would today's FR be capable of garnering enough collective fellowship and effort to result in another "Sore Loserman" or "Get Out of Cheney's House" FReep?

I think so.

This issue is so divisive because it's about illegals, lawbreakers demanding instant citizenship by the tens of millions.

[tcostell]

What part about 'legal immigration' didn't you understand?

[brytlea]

Many of us are not too lazy to cut our own grass, thank you.
susie

[rvoitier]

area,

From just your headline; I saw Sen. Mel Martinez whimpishly say the same thing. It makes my blood boil to hear an American say, 'We can't.'

It may take time but deporting the lawbreakers could be done. Just ask the head of Clinton-Gore '96's Citizenship USA program, that trucked 1.2 million over the border then to needed voter precincts, how they did it.

[calljack]

Don't need to round them all up. Enforce the law. Make it too darn expensive for the employers to employ them. Make it next to impossible for them to receive public assistance. The majority of illegals will self-deport.

I wish that were true. If the "migration" started to flow the other way, back to Mexico, I think we would see a Mexican example of border control that would show how it should be done. The flow is only one way. We will probally have to drop them back by parachute or something (sarc)

[LadyNavyVet]

I'm not confusing two issues. I plan to vote Republican this fall, regardless. I've never said otherwise. I'm going to pick the most conservative Republicans running and vote for them. I pray they win and put a stop to this amnesty madness.

But all my conservative voting in the world now won't mean jack in a few years when millions of new Democrat voters are legalized.

And make no mistake--most of these newly legalized WILL BE Democrats. I've lived in the southwest and know a lot of Hispanics. I'm Catholic and know them through the church. Even Hispanics who are very conservative in their personal lives vote "social justice." Drop "justice" and add "ism" and you get the idea what "social justice" is all about.

Some in the administration have convinced themselves that since Hispanics are mostly Catholic, their opposition to abortion will drive them toward Republicans. I'm telling you that is NOT TRUE; history does not support that belief.

These millions of illegals will nullify conservative votes if legalized--bet on it.

[Coldwater Creek]

BINGO!!!!!!!

[hispanarepublicana]

Based on that last sentence in your response, it seems like a no-brainer for a good FReeper. It SHOULDN'T be divisive on FR, though, except perhaps by those who are construction contractors or in the restaurant or farming business, shouldn't it? Then why does it garner so much back-and-forth? (You don't have to answer that; no need to get ourselves in trouble this early in the day).

[Plutarch]

Yuh know, pluty, you really should learn how to read English before you go on your knee jerk rants about people named Juan being illiterate.

Uh, Dane, what on earth are you talking about? Although levels of education, and literacy, amongst illegals is notoriously low (which accounts for the labor being so cheap) that was not the subject of any my posts on this thread.

I apprehend that your Juan remark was mainly an attempt at being disruptive.

[OKIEDOC]

Good Post and excellent observation.

This is a divisive issue and it has cut to the bone for many.

I don't like the current legislation in the Senate proposed by the turn coat John McCaniac and Murdering Teddy Boy Kennedy.

I have relatives who are Hispanic and they do not like the current situation.

They feel betrayed by a bunch of liberals and RINO's who want to sell the citizenship they worked so hard to get for a paltry $2,000.

I am not against a guest worker program for agricultural businesses close to the one we had during the second World War.

However we need to secure the borders first and then put in place a worker program.

I support President Bush but do not support an open borders policy.

[You Dirty Rats]

Probably not against Tom. I meant republicans in general.

Exactly -- and that's my point. "General" means nothing.

The House -- all of whom are up for reelection this year -- passed a bill that I doubt many will find not tough enough. So the beef isn't with the House.

The President doesn't run again.

The Senate has either 33 or 34 up this year. Many are 'Rats who are safe and have no fear of losing because of lax border control. Many others are Republicans who would agree with the House bill.

So what you are really talking about is going after a few Republican Senators using the border issue as a club. Good luck with that. See how much traction that gets here in Ohio with Mike DeWine vs. Sherrod Brown. I doubt it will even be discussed much by either of them.

This issue is just not that big a deal for most pols. There will be debates, meetings, a bill will likely be passed -- and that will be the end of it for most people and the press for ten years at least.

The only issue that REALLY matters is employer sanctions. That will determine whether ANY bill is enforceable. If a guest worker program is carefully managed and enforced, with rules, procedures, etc. for employers, AND there are SEVERE penalties for employers who do not follow the guest worker program -- then it will work. Otherwise not.

Employers should pay fees for administering the guest worker program and employment should require proof of citizenship, a green card, or a guest worker permit -- for EVERYONE.

Let's see if that can get passed.

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[brytlea]

If you shut the border (Bush seems to be saying he wants to do that--I'll try to take him at his word), and then start repatriating even one million per year, sounds like the problem would be solved in 11 years or so. How is that a bad thing?
susie