GOP Drifting Toward Disaster

Human Events Online ^ | 5/12/06 | Robert Bluey

[wotan]

With Senate Republicans “drifting toward disaster” on immigration, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said it’s up to President Bush to reconnect with the majority of Americans who support a strong enforcement-first approach.

Bush will deliver a primetime speech to the nation Monday night on immigration—kicking off what is expected to be a tumultuous time in Washington as Senate and House Republicans clash on the best way to deal with immigration reform.

[john drake]

Agreed, however the Republicans seem to be tilting more often in that direction as well. The power is intoxicating, alright. The saddest part is the Constitution and original design of the government was to limit the power and keep the elected officials from being afflicted. The results of those restraints being circumvented are now quite obvious...I suspect the Founding Fathers have been spinning in their graves for some time now and are now experiencing ever increasing RPM's as time marches on...a sad time for America in more ways than one.

[RetSignman]

A concerned Conservative.

[Jackknife]

Put this guy in charge of the border. Problem solved.

[roses of sharon]

Yes, the MSM/DNC power is unmatchable, they are enormous.

And we have lost another war, and another President to them, and still we sit and do nothing.

[JasonC]

If Bush says he is putting the guard on the border and will veto any bill that lets a single illegal stay here, he can point fingers at the squishy senators. If he continues to support amnesty himself, he is just the leading squish. It really isn't complicated. The country wants real enforcement. It doesn't want real enforcement plus amnesty. The president can pledge to veto any amnesty tomorrow and the idea will be dead as a doornail. So far, he is trying to do anything he can to get an amnesty through, instead.

[JasonC]

Haven't lost anything yet. If Bush couples dropping the whole amnesty idea with real border enforcement in his coming speeches on the subject, it will all be fine. Ball is in his court, winning move right there on the board. All he has to do is actually make it. It isn't complicated.

[johnpaul]

"Bush and the Senate are pulling the old bait and switch."


I fear that is the plan. It will backfire on the Repubs if they do.....they don't seem to understand the power of an ignored citizenry. Are they so ignorant as to simply rule out the exercise of that power?

The closest analogy to the current situation is the way King George III and his government ignored the American colonists and their pleas for self determination. Their arrogance forced a rebellion against the crown that resulted in the formation of the United States.

Temporarily placing NG troops on the border would be an insult to the intelligence of anyone desiring meaningful enforcement of our existing laws. We must build the fence, man the gates (permanently if necessary), and control the flow into this country. Then, and only then, should we consider what to do with the millions of illegals already here.

And one more thing: GW should publically apologize for referring to the Minutemen as vigilantes. Appearing with their leadership in a public display of cohesiveness will go far to legitimize any of his efforts to enforce the laws already on the books. (If he can embrace Vincente Fox, why not American patriots?)

[KoRn]

I can't say enough good things about that guy!

[roses of sharon]

LOL, he could give a speech on:

a fence
National Guard
cutting all benefits
ending illegal offspring citizenship
employers jailed
deportation

It would not matter one bit.

He does not have the votes in either chamber, he does not have the votes in the State Houses of the border states.

He does not have border state Governors on even his guard musings!

He does not have the Judges to back him up on all of the issues above.

Conservatives must realize that we have NOT laid the groundwork for the implementation of these policies, we don't have the constituencies to elect Conservatives, or the judges to rule in our favor, nor do we have ANY media apparatus to educate those constituencies.

You cannot wait until 6 mos before an election to make these massive changes, its a good time to get attention, but not the ideal results.

And voting out the Republican/Conservative majority will get us nowhere, we need to appoint judges ect.

The massive protests by the illegals is a hopeful development for getting Conservatives to run against RINOs in primaries, and the education of the public.

There must be a well thought-out strategic plan, its slow but thats how the liberals and their media took over this entire country for the last 40 years and counting.

[claudiustg]

---He does not have the votes in either chamber, he does not have the votes in the State Houses of the border states.---

The tough House bill is already passed and he doesn't need any state legislature votes.

[CyberAnt]

Well .. I don't know where you got the impression I wasn't upset about the borders. I live 11 miles from the border and 2 of the hijackers lived in my city.

But .. it isn't just the President who is soft on immigration .. IT'S HUNDREDS OF OTHER REPUBS AND MOST DEMS.

Let's put the blame where it belongs, instead of just using Bush for a punching bag and a catch-all.

[CyberAnt]

But .. why aren't the RINO's responsible for their own IN-ACTIONS. Yes, the President should lead - but what about their responsibility to encourage HIM to change his stand on the issue.

Everybody seems to be hiding behind the President - thereby abdicating their own responsibility to act.

That's all I'm saying here.

[CyberAnt]

Well .. it's the rest of them who need the re-indoctrination. I place blame where it's due .. and nobody in the govt comes out of this unscathed.

[EternalVigilance]

Amazing, ain't it.

[roses of sharon]

He does not have the votes for all items I listed, and he does need the States help with compliance, enforcement, ect.

That comprehensive change will need more Conservatives period.

The final bill after conference with House and Senate, will maybe be a small start, who knows.

[AliVeritas]

Troops On The Border?http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/

[antaresequity]

Sometimes I get the impression the Democrats are more interested in their own power than in what is best for America.

And you think that the Republicans and Bush care about whats best for America? Right...

[claudiustg]

No fence, no credibility.

[jan in Colorado]

Put this guy in charge of the border. Problem solved.

Absolutely. I saw him on Fox News...this ex-cop would LOVE to work for him! Enforce the laws!!! What a novel idea...

[JasonC]

He doesn't need any votes to stop an amnesty, he's got one worth 33 senators. It is called the veto.

And he doesn't need every senator on board to start seriously enforcing existing law. The wonderful thing about *existing law* is that it *already exists*. Hence, the legislature's approval is not required to *enforce* it. Enforcement is the responsibility of the *executive* branch.

And a well thought out strategic plan does not start with "first, we let everybody in". Any more than the WOT starts with "first, we surrender and all convert to Islam."