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To: Ramius
Now watch... Bush will do some things that show he is listening, and moving in the right direction.

I don't expect the border to improve overnight. But if Bush starts moving in the right direction, and follows through with his plan of action, then I will stop criticizing him on border security.

However, I do not want to hear talk of a guest worker program until we have improved border security to significant extent. And that sentiment is shared by other conservatives who want either amnesty or a guest worker program - any legislation dealing with illegals already here is doomed to failure until we have a reasonable level of border security.

34 posted on 05/12/2006 9:25:06 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: dirtboy
Good post, dirt.

If true, this is good news.

66 posted on 05/12/2006 9:31:27 AM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: dirtboy
However, I do not want to hear talk of a guest worker program until we have improved border security to significant extent.

Next to improved security, the most important threat in this whole mess is the 'path to citizenship' in proposed 'guest worker' programs being pushed by many politicians. Bad idea - 12 million new citizens plus their dependents is enough to change the voting demographic in this country for generations to come.

Americans need to think on that long & hard.

92 posted on 05/12/2006 9:39:17 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: dirtboy
However, I do not want to hear talk of a guest worker program until we have improved border security to significant extent. And that sentiment is shared by other conservatives who want either amnesty or a guest worker program - any legislation dealing with illegals already here is doomed to failure until we have a reasonable level of border security.

We got fooled last time (1986) with the promises of better enforcement when the amnesty was pushed through. We won't get fooled again. Secure the borders, prove that they will remain secure, enforce interior immigration laws, demonstrate a radical drop in the population of illegal aliens in the U.S. and a radical increase in the number of employers fined or jailed for committing the felony of having hired illegal aliens (that won't be hard to do given the current dismal enforcement), and then and only then come back and see if the mood is right for a "guest worker program". This will take years.

118 posted on 05/12/2006 9:46:42 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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