Sink, we don't agree at all on this. And I really don't care whether the American public doesn't see a problem with this - they don't see a problem with a lot of the stuff that the fedgov does that is beyond their Consitutional powers.
All I see is the government getting data that they have no business having without due process or a subpeona. And now I see that Hayden doesn't even realize that the words probable cause are in the 4th Amendment. So excuse me if I don't join you in chewing cuds.
"And now I see that Hayden doesn't even realize that the words probable cause are in the 4th Amendment. "
You're misrepresenting what he said. What he actually said was right on the money. "Probable cause," as even some court rulings have indicated, refers only to the issuing of warrants. No warrants are needed, for example, to search you at an airport or to require you to mail in your census form.