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To: groanup
JOHNWK WROTE:

Is it not true that the family consumption allowance, which is proposed under H.R. 25, would create a new massive voting constituency dependent upon a monthly government check?

groanup wrote:

No. The allowance is a return of taxes paid. The source of the allowance is the universal consumption tax paid by all equally.

Well, I see your pretty good at making things up as you go along just like little piggy poo. You're quite amusing!

A return of taxes paid? Paying taxes and contributing into the common treasury are not the same think pal! I would not say paying taxes from ill gotten gains, or money stolen from someone else and used to pay taxes is contributing into the common treasury. You may have a different opinion, but I suspect thinking people would not agree with you. And this applies to the socialist family consumption allowance under H.R. 25. Stay at home un-wed moms who do not work for a living, for example, would receive the allowance but would not be contributing into the common treasury when spending that welfare check. As a matter of fact, they would be receiving an approximate $400 per month bonus for staying at home making babies. And your criminals would also be receiving the $400 per month bonus for breaking the law.

H.R. 25 is socialist friendly plan which would create the largest entitlement in America’s history! The family consumption entitlement is project to cost approximately $600 billion per year and would make Hillary Health Care look like chicken feed!

The President's Advisory Panel on Tax Reform stated the following in its conclusion with regard to your beloved family consumption entitlement:

“Like other consumption taxes, the full replacement retail sales tax has pro-retail growth features. Nevertheless, the Panel does not recommend a full replacement retail sales tax. Without a large cash grant program to ease the burden of the tax, a retail sales tax would not be appropriately progressive. A cash grant program to make the tax appropriately progressive would cost at least $600 billion per year – which would make it America’s largest entitlement program. The Panel concluded that it was inappropriate to recommend a tax reform proposal that required the federal government to collect and redistribute this amount in additional revenue from taxpayers. The Panel also was concerned with administrative and compliance issues associated with a retail sales tax, as well as difficulties involving coordination with existing state sales taxes.”

Why do you want to redistribute money from the common treasury to people who do not work for a living and to criminals who steal other peoples hard earned money?

Why do you want to give these people a $400 per month bonus?

Regards, JWK___ a proud supporter of our founding fathers ORIGINAL TAX REFORM PLAN

"To lay with one hand the power of the government on the property of the citizen and with the other to bestow upon favored individuals, to aid private enterprises and build up private fortunes is none the less a robbery because it is done under forms of law and called taxation."___Savings and Loan Assc. v. Topeka,(1875).

220 posted on 05/14/2006 3:51:48 PM PDT by JOHN W K
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To: JOHN W K
ell, I see your pretty good at making things up as you go along just like little piggy poo. You're quite amusing!

piggy poo.

Stay at home un-wed moms who do not work for a living, for example, would receive the allowance but would not be contributing into the common treasury when spending that welfare check.

How many of the above do you know? I know quite a few. There is a housing project nearby and a lot of those kids go to school with my kids and, when they were little, my kids hung out with them. They went to the movies together, to Dairy Queen, MacDonalds, mucho etcetera. Guess what piggy poo? Those folks spent money at the movies, at Mickie Dees, at the Mall, at the car dealership.

H.R. 25 is socialist friendly plan which would create the largest entitlement in America’s history! The family consumption entitlement is project to cost approximately $600 billion per year and would make Hillary Health Care look like chicken feed!

And what is the cost of the prescription drug benefit, NOW? Over 600 billion. What is the cost of medicare now? What is the cost of SS now? What are the contingent liabilities of the last two? Well I'll give you a hint. Your little 600 billion is a drop in the bucket compare to 30 trillion, PIGGY POO! So don't give me that.

The President's Advisory Panel on Tax Reform stated the following in its conclusion with regard to your beloved family consumption entitlement:

Mentioning the name of the least effective, weakest and most un-meaningful presidential tax panel in the last 50 years is not the way to debate here. I suggest you bring up a better source.

Why do you want to redistribute money from the common treasury to people who do not work for a living and to criminals who steal other peoples hard earned money?

I don't. I want to end that right now. The fair tax goes a long way toward that end. The current system is rife with redistribution. Why do you want to perpetuate the bad and ignore change? Job security maybe? Just asking.

Now since you yell a lot and call people "pal" and all of that third grade playground idiom, please tell me why I should take you seriously as of this moment. Your arguments are tepid and your rhetoric is juvenile. Please improve on both.

221 posted on 05/14/2006 6:05:31 PM PDT by groanup (Shred For Ian)
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To: JOHN W K; Your Nightmare

You really want to be on this guy's team?


222 posted on 05/14/2006 6:45:37 PM PDT by groanup (Shred For Ian)
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