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Did Muslims Visit America Before Columbus?
History News Network ^ | 5/8/06 | Rebecca Fachner

Posted on 05/09/2006 9:55:41 AM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: Mikey_1962
While I was waiting I found this. Do you know which of you is right?

A link to a contrary view.

101 posted on 05/09/2006 10:57:39 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: LibWhacker

I see a lot of people scoffing at this, but it's entirely possible. There is this "myth" in popular culture that the America's were undiscovered before Columbus, but it's simply untrue. We know that the Vikings reached North America many times before Columbus, and there are solid historical indications that the Chinese may have visited parts of the northwest coast, and that very early Russian explorers may have seen, and visited, Alaska across the Bering Strait. The stories of St. Brendan are not only plausible, but they're accurate enough to assume at least some truth to the stories of the Irish reaching America, and archaeologists have been talking for years about historical and cultural artifacts indicating some type of trans-Atlantic trade between South America and the Carthaginians & African civilizations.

When Europe was stuck in the dark ages, the Islamic world was at its peak. Its traders sailed ships all over the world, its scientists and astronomers made discoveries and established systems still used today, and cities like Baghdad and Alexandria were universally regarded as centers of learning. If the Carthaginians really did visit the America's, it's entirely possible that Muslims would have inherited maps or other records of those voyages, and that they may have repeated them.

Columbus wasn't even close to being the first to discover the America's. His success was that he was the first to make it commonly known. Columbus died thinking that he had found a new route to the Indies and wanted history to remember him as a great navigator, so he made sure that word of his discovery spread widely. His discovery was simply the one that launched the conquest and colonization of the territories.


102 posted on 05/09/2006 10:59:19 AM PDT by Arthalion
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To: rageaholic

The Babylonians came very close to the concept, in their base-60 numerical system, but the zero was first named and incorporated into a mathematical system by the Hindus:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_%28number%29


103 posted on 05/09/2006 11:00:00 AM PDT by MoJoWork_n (We don't know what it is we don't know)
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To: Publius6961
My favorite library/book store for Spanish history and documents from the age of exploration...
Madrid, not far from the Palacio Real, and from the prettiest McDonalds you'll eve see...

http://www.casadellibro.com/secciones/seccion/0,,1,00.html?codigo=1

104 posted on 05/09/2006 11:01:53 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: redpoll
Let's say this was true. Why didn't these Arab sailors, filled as they were with the same bacillus, viruses, and bacteria as every other Old World person, infect Native Americans, causing vast pandemics and death? Where's the smallpox? The measles? The influenza?

For that matter, where are all the mass graves filled with the corpses of decapitated Indians?

105 posted on 05/09/2006 11:03:36 AM PDT by CFC__VRWC
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To: LibWhacker
If they did they were lost...

Anyway it did not 'stay' discovered and the wilderness made into something valuable until after it was settled...by those dreadful Europeans...

Those Aztlan commies who want to steal it now would not bother with it if it were like it was 200 yrs ago...

It's the improvements those hated Europeans made that make the land worth something...

Who in their right mind would want to steal vacant desert acreage full of tumble weeds and scorpions when you can steal an operating gold mine,oil well or town filled with commercial buildings and valuable homes...
106 posted on 05/09/2006 11:03:39 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: LibWhacker

Oh, brother.....



ROTFLMAO!!!! I love it!!! I was thinking the same thing. You know what everyone has claimed to be in America first lately. As far as I can see it does not matter we know the truth.


107 posted on 05/09/2006 11:04:56 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: LibWhacker

Yes, they did.
Thet looked everywhere, discovered there were no Jews or other infidels to kill, so they left.


108 posted on 05/09/2006 11:05:25 AM PDT by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: pgyanke

They will work hand in hand with the MSM and Mexicans and we will see the horror of Palestine before this is over...


Bingo, this is their plan and its in motion now. The illegal protests are planned to keep the pressure on


109 posted on 05/09/2006 11:05:52 AM PDT by roverman2K6
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To: rageaholic
Muslims claim they invented everything. The only thing they really invented was the suicide hijacker

Sounds like they are all Al Gore wannabees...and sometimes he looks like a suicide hijacker.

110 posted on 05/09/2006 11:07:37 AM PDT by tertiary01 (The Pubs have no one to blame but themselves for their defeat if the borders are not closed!)
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To: roverman2K6

They plan on surrounding the white house on the 19th. I figure that by the 4th of July they'll plan to occupy it.


111 posted on 05/09/2006 11:09:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: LibWhacker

So Mohammed discovered America?


112 posted on 05/09/2006 11:11:57 AM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: zek157
The Babylonians came very close to the concept, in their base-60 numerical system, but the zero was first named and incorporated into a mathematical system by the Hindus:

http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0_%28number%29

103 posted on 05/09/2006 11:00:00 AM PDT by MoJoWork_n

113 posted on 05/09/2006 11:14:36 AM PDT by rageaholic
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To: LibWhacker

These are nothing but LIES.

Al Gore INVENTED America so he would have place to put his Internet!


114 posted on 05/09/2006 11:17:43 AM PDT by Boiler Plate (Mom always said why be difficult, when with just a little more effort you can be impossible.)
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To: Arthalion
When Europe was stuck in the dark ages, the Islamic world was at its peak. Its traders sailed ships all over the world, its scientists and astronomers made discoveries and established systems still used today,

Correction, the islamic world made no such discoveries, they only pillaged and translated the Greek's libraries.

115 posted on 05/09/2006 11:17:43 AM PDT by rageaholic
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To: LibWhacker
"Oh, brother... Next thing you know, they and their socialist pals at HNN are going to claim muslims walked on the moon before Armstrong. In 700 AD, no doubt."

How do you think they got the star inside of the crescent moon for their symbol?
116 posted on 05/09/2006 11:17:55 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: LibWhacker


There is NO evidence of Muslims in the New World. The first thing these invaders would have done is build Mosques. We have found none. They would have brought with them Islamic artifacts. We have found none. The Native Americans would have old legends of terrible blood drinking invaders from the east. There aren't any.

But wait until Al Quada gets a hold of this. *sighs*


117 posted on 05/09/2006 11:18:46 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: Dixie Yooper

The moslems are pissed cos Neil Armstrong stuck the American flag in allah's eye and left boot prints on his forehead.


118 posted on 05/09/2006 11:19:24 AM PDT by rageaholic
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To: LibWhacker

The arab world admires (present tense) Hitler.

Arab leaders to this day use Mein Kamf as a political text book and guide.

The Nazis' were engaged in serious "super race" archeology. They just made up stuff to establish their own aryan super race.

It is a certainty the moslems are doing the same thing in order to claim they were the ones who invented or discovered something. This is going to be used to propaganda that they really own the whole planet as an islamic empire. (once a land is islamic it may never be relinquished. ie spain, El Cid not withstanding.)

It still tracks, islam's claims to glory all start with "800 years ago..."


119 posted on 05/09/2006 11:24:43 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: LibWhacker

Yes, of course they did, and that means they have clean title to the entire continent. What were we thinking?


120 posted on 05/09/2006 11:26:29 AM PDT by Brilliant
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