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U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols (telling the Mexican government)
Daily Bulletin ^ | 5/9/2006 | Sara A Carter

Posted on 05/09/2006 6:21:25 AM PDT by IrishMike

While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are. According to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants -- and if and when violence is used against border crossers.

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed.

"It's not a secret where the Minuteman volunteers are going to be," Mario Martinez said Monday.

"This ... simply makes two basic statements -- that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type, and that if an alien is encountered by a Minuteman or arrested by the Minuteman, then we will allow that government to interview the person."

Minuteman members were not so sanguine about the arrangement, however, saying that reporting their location to Mexican officials nullifies their effectiveness along the border and could endanger their lives.

"Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew where we were all the time," said Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. "It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country. They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.

"They just basically endangered the lives of American people."

(Excerpt) Read more at dailybulletin.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; falsestory; getaclue; gwot; illegalimmigration; illegals; incorrectstory; loudobbs; mexicans; mexico; minutemanproject; minutemen; moonbatbarking; nationalsecurity; notaccurate; nutcases; saraacarter; saracarter; wot
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To: kstewskis
If our Border Patrol/gov't is expected to inform the Mexican gov't of the MM's position, who else gets this information, other than "their well intentioned marxican migrants expecting to better their lives in the US?"

Anybody who pays the going bribery rate.

601 posted on 05/09/2006 11:16:36 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Yes, the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations.

No, this is outside of the Vienna Convention and deals strictly with illegal immigration.

602 posted on 05/09/2006 11:16:59 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: IrishMike

There's no end to the sleaze in our government, is there?


603 posted on 05/09/2006 11:17:02 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: Marine Inspector
No, this is outside of the Vienna Convention and deals strictly with illegal immigration.

Do tell. I just reread the Vienna Convention, and it makes no distinction regarding the nature of the detention.

604 posted on 05/09/2006 11:17:42 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; Angelwood; ...

PING!

No end to the sleaze...


605 posted on 05/09/2006 11:17:46 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: clawrence3
"He doesn't support criminals"

Ok lets start from the top so I can see if you are serious. Do you believe that illegal invaders have committed a criminal act?

606 posted on 05/09/2006 11:18:19 AM PDT by blaquebyrd (Allegiance to country before party)
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To: VOATNOW1

You're welcome.


607 posted on 05/09/2006 11:18:30 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: nicmarlo

Everyday that we can knock more party blinders off, we get closer.


608 posted on 05/09/2006 11:19:13 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: clawrence3
we will have to agree to disagree on whose fault it will be if GOP does not keep Congress.

Agreed. But if the GOP doesn't wake up, like yesterday, they will have done it to themselves.

609 posted on 05/09/2006 11:19:21 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: Marine Inspector

Even if the purpose is so the Mexican government can take steps to avoid direct armed conflict across the border?


610 posted on 05/09/2006 11:19:22 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: SerpentDove

Maybe they are busy?


611 posted on 05/09/2006 11:19:45 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: texastoo

What migrant rights????????

Migrants have rights. I have posted this before and I am going to post this again. Click on the borderless map and then click on table of contents.

http://www.naalc.org

Somehow I was happier when I didn't know about this....


612 posted on 05/09/2006 11:20:26 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: SerpentDove

Apology accepted.


613 posted on 05/09/2006 11:20:30 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: B Knotts
This is outrageous! Our government has no business telling foreign governments of U.S. citizens' movements.

You have just summed up the issue very well. Good post.

614 posted on 05/09/2006 11:20:34 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: clawrence3

I asked before and you didn't answer me. You say that you are a lawyer. Are you an ACLU lawyer? A member? Do you support or have association with the ACLU in any way, shape, or form?


615 posted on 05/09/2006 11:21:11 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: B4Ranch

It's a chore, I tell ya! : )


616 posted on 05/09/2006 11:21:22 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: clawrence3; kstewskis
There's been a 64% increase in Border Patrol funding since 9/11 -

You can't get such blatant lies past FReepers.

Bush budget scraps 9,790 border patrol agents: President uses law's escape clause to drop funding for new homeland security force

Besides, ks, you know claw-rence doesn't want ZERO illegal immigration and neither does the Bush43 administration.

617 posted on 05/09/2006 11:21:27 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: SerpentDove
but most regular Freepers know EXACTLY who I'm talking about.

We do...

618 posted on 05/09/2006 11:21:33 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: clawrence3

"You don't think after 500+ posts, and duplicate threads, there's been enough trouble stirred up? At least I don't advocate violence or call for Bush's impeachment ; )"

Is the truth actually starting to sting?


619 posted on 05/09/2006 11:21:44 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: SerpentDove

LOL, where are the Bushbots and the "you hate Bush" posts that they are so fond of?


620 posted on 05/09/2006 11:22:07 AM PDT by VOATNOW1
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