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Sentiment Against Illegals is Powerful and Growing
Townhall.com ^ | May 7 2006 | John Leo

Posted on 05/08/2006 12:20:20 PM PDT by Mount Athos

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To: Cautor

Yes . End the gravy train . Bush says we are now in WW3 , yet we refuse to control our borders . Lets simply adopt the same immigration policies as Mexico . It works for them.


121 posted on 05/08/2006 2:58:54 PM PDT by fantom
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To: in hoc signo vinces

I like my amnesty plan!
Please call them INVADERS and don't compare them to people who are legal aliens!
IF you aid and abet CRIMINALS, you are a criminal!

President Bush has been great on most things except for our border.
He has been great on the war on terrorists.
But on the border he is a gross failure.
He acted fast and correct on the 3,000+ people murdered at the world trade center.
He ignores the many rapes, murders and robberies which might be larger than the murders and money loss at the world trade center.
More Americans are abducted on the border of Mexico than in Iraq!

Start building the fence.
It should be made a felony for Criminals who overstay their visas and Invaders.

I believe we should give amnesty to these poor CRIMINALS or INVADERS.
This should be a 2 week amnesty to get the heck out of our Country.
The ones who ignore this amnesty should be buried in a tent city jail and fined $10,000 or buried elsewhere.
All aiders and abettors of these CRIMINALS or INVADERS should get 1 year in a tent city jail and a $10,000 fine for each CRIMINAL aided.
Those in government should be the first ones charged.


122 posted on 05/08/2006 3:00:20 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: EEDUDE

The $12 figure came from an article here yesterday on the changes illegals have brought to NOLA; it was a pretty lengthy article.


123 posted on 05/08/2006 3:01:04 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: TC Builders

My heart goes out to you. What Washington DC is doing to Middle america is tragic! But we ain't done yet : )


124 posted on 05/08/2006 3:01:47 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Immigration: Acting like dupes does not earn us their respect, but their CONTEMPT.))
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To: Arizona Carolyn
a Southwestern Border state where they are driving our hospitals out of business and our schools can't keep up -- all on the taxpayers backs

It's everywhere, now. Except, apparently, where Mr. Sinister lives.

125 posted on 05/08/2006 3:01:52 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: mtbopfuyn
"My property taxes have skyrocketed from what 10 years ago amounted to 2 weeks takehome pay to nearly 2 MONTHS takehome pay. And this with the same job and same house. It's all due to the school district having to more than double it's buildings, increase the ESL classes, and not only is the free lunch program growing but now we have free breakfast."

Very interesting point. There's one of the "hidden" costs of illegal immigration that often gets overlooked.

By the way, here's a chart that shows some interesting numbers, total yearly USA expenditures on Public Elementary and Secondary Education from 1961 through 2003.

Long story short, we spend almost 4 times as much now on education as we did 40 years ago.

126 posted on 05/08/2006 3:02:02 PM PDT by Sabatier
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To: kabar
Unless we secure our borders, we are not serious.

Fences take time

We need to build 'em but I'd start w/ some announcements that would disturb the comfort zones

Verifiable SS# required for:
.....school enrollment
.....social services
.....legal employment

Folks caught here illegally must wait 10 yrs to apply

The voluntary deportation would start immediately

127 posted on 05/08/2006 3:03:07 PM PDT by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: M. Thatcher

Maybe Houston doesn't have such a problem since so many have gone across the border to Louisiana to work since Katrina???? Sadly, Houston inherited the murder rate from LA.


128 posted on 05/08/2006 3:03:22 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: kabar

Good analogy.


129 posted on 05/08/2006 3:03:28 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Immigration: Acting like dupes does not earn us their respect, but their CONTEMPT.))
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To: Sabatier

Interesting chart. Thanks.


130 posted on 05/08/2006 3:04:51 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Sabatier

And our school districts are falling behind -- afterall most graduates can't even locate Mississippi there days -- Why do I suspect a lot of that additional money we all pay is going to bilingual education... the thing that drew Tom Tancredo into Congress.


131 posted on 05/08/2006 3:05:08 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Mount Athos

I really never thought much about them and here in my neck of the woods there are tons of them. Years ago, when my grandparents lived in the valley and we always noticed the wetbacks. So it was kinda a way of life. The Marches did for me. I'm now totally against the illegals. That's the BLOW BACK...they've all shot their selves in the foot.


132 posted on 05/08/2006 3:06:33 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

The "classic misdirection" is actually in your post.

You are trying to equate the controlled immigration of people who wanted to assimilate into American culture and who played by the rules, with the uncontrolled, bursting-at-the-seams illegal immigration of millions who do not want to play by the rules and do not want to assimilate into American culture, but rather to push their border farther northward to reclaim land they believe is theirs.


133 posted on 05/08/2006 3:12:56 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: TheOracleAtLilac

" How serious are they ?..or are we just protecting the Tysons, ADMs & Hormels of this country"

All your comments are spot on!

One the one hand I can vote for a Democrat that I know will raise my taxes and use them for useless things and "vote buying".

On the other hand, I can vote for a Republican whose "turn a blind eye" attitude to the illegals effectively raises my taxes because I have to pay for services for illegals via higher health insurance premiums, property taxes, etc., in order to subsidize cheap labor for corporations.

Either choice sucks, and I will not vote for either one.


134 posted on 05/08/2006 3:14:07 PM PDT by EEDUDE (A penny saved is......a penny Congress overlooked.)
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To: in hoc signo vinces
You are apparently bewildered by the fact that legal America has reached a classic cultural and political "tipping point" on immigration. It's all right - you're in good company: most of official Washington is behind the curve on this as well. They won't be for long.

The nation is saying: NO MAS. And at this point, you can post all you want on an internet forum, but we are in the midst of an unstoppable tsunami of voter energy. There's nothing, nothing, that can be done to put this genii back in the bottle.

135 posted on 05/08/2006 3:16:22 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: jmaroneps37

I agree with you. You can feel it coming and when it does it's gonna be ugly.


136 posted on 05/08/2006 3:23:25 PM PDT by panthermom
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To: TheOracleAtLilac

agreed. and 30 years ago we didn't have the 29% of our prison population as illegals.

30 years ago we didn't have Latin Kings or MS-13 in Minneapolis.

We didn't have "sanctuary cities" encouraging more illegals to come.

We didn't have Spanish only versions of our National Anthem.





137 posted on 05/08/2006 3:33:32 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (lead ,follow or get out of the majority.start with our borders.)
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To: LongElegantLegs; radar101; RamingtonStall; engrpat; HamiltonFan; Draco; TexasCajun; ...

Backlash Ping!


138 posted on 05/08/2006 3:43:10 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations!)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

The Federal Goverment needs to keep its eyes on the ball in regard to world wide terrorism, nuke proliferation, and the national economy...empower the states to manage their borders.

The more I see the outrage over illegals, the more I get the sense that something sinister within this country is driving the ire...

You may get flamed for stating that, but I agree with you.

139 posted on 05/08/2006 3:45:43 PM PDT by rdb3 (It helps now that I'm no longer young enough to know everything.)
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To: XeniaSt


Can you make this larger.....excellent!


140 posted on 05/08/2006 3:46:36 PM PDT by dcnd9
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