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‘United 93’: A hard flight for Americans to take
Tacoma News Tribune Editorial ^ | 5/7/06 | Tacoma News Tribune

Posted on 05/07/2006 10:53:29 AM PDT by Ramius

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To: windchime
I agree with your comments regarding "United 93" and would add that there are lessons to be learned from the film.

Like the value of the proposal to strengthen cockpit doors?

61 posted on 05/07/2006 5:08:33 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: McB.
if you don't think the director was equating both prayers, you're gullible.

Both sides were praying for divine assistance in the task they were about to undertake. Islamic prayers were said by evil people, while the Lord's Prayer was said by those trying to stop them. You did notice that the people saying the Islamic prayers were murderers, didn't you? Or did the film's portrayal of the terrorists as murderers not do enough to show that they were evil?

62 posted on 05/07/2006 5:19:49 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: donna

Your perception of reality is so different from anybody I've ever talked to, I'm not sure there is any point trying.

"Osama will love this movie"... well, why wouldn't he? He loved all of 9/11 and its ghastly events because he planned them. He revels in evil because he is an evil man. So what?

You've so completely missed the point, we may as well be using different languages.


63 posted on 05/07/2006 5:23:19 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1100 knives and counting!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The libs will wait a long time. Until it will be too soon agian.


64 posted on 05/07/2006 5:26:45 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Ramius
"Osama will love this movie"... well, why wouldn't he? He loved all of 9/11 and its ghastly events because he planned them. He revels in evil because he is an evil man. So what?

Osama enjoyed 9/11 and now we've made a recruiting film for him. Forgive me, but that's a very bad thing. We are good and he is evil. That needed to be shown in the movie - not just projected into the movie by American hearts.

65 posted on 05/07/2006 5:42:28 PM PDT by donna
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To: donna

If you can't see the evil portrayed in the events, then you never will see evil.

You're simply wrong. By your standard no story could ever be told.


66 posted on 05/07/2006 5:47:13 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1100 knives and counting!)
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To: Ramius
If you can't see the evil portrayed in the events, then you never will see evil. You're simply wrong. By your standard no story could ever be told.

I do see the evil. I'm saying the director recounted events (leaving out the vote) and did not clarify to the audience which side is evil. He wanted to make an international movie that will play to Muslims. He succeeded.

67 posted on 05/07/2006 5:56:41 PM PDT by donna
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To: supercat
How did the movie imply that the terrorists' actions were anything other than evil? True, the movie didn't use sinister music and camera angles to cast the villians in an evil light, but that's because there was no need to--their actions spoke for themselves.

I agree with you insomuch as my own preception of good and evil are concerned.

I guess I feel about this movie as those who bitterly complained about Tora! Tora! Tora!

quoting from http://www.imdb.com re: Tora film:

"The film was considered a flop when it was released in the United States, but was a huge success in Japan."

I doubt those living in Japan in 1970 was cheering about the success of Evil.

68 posted on 05/07/2006 6:05:18 PM PDT by McB.
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To: Ramius

Great post.

I'm not sure whether I'd like to watch it in the theatre or wait for DVD. Only because I'm not sure I'd like to be a blubbering mess in public.

:-(


69 posted on 05/07/2006 6:50:24 PM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: 1rudeboy

I hope and pray that you are right. :)


70 posted on 05/07/2006 7:44:27 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: RMDupree
I'm not sure whether I'd like to watch it in the theatre or wait for DVD. Only because I'm not sure I'd like to be a blubbering mess in public.

Let's put it this way...If you wait to see it on DVD, you won't have the same experience as seeing it on the big screen. It is a singular movie experience you won't get from any other movie. Don't worry about blubbering in public. No one cares, especially all the other people who see the movie...

71 posted on 05/07/2006 7:56:34 PM PDT by FDNYRHEROES (Always bring a liberal to a gunfight)
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To: Ramius

watching this movie is painful.

however, I'm willing to bet that if a blade had sensation, it would find whetting and polishing a painful event.

I suspect just about any FReeper will understand the gist of the phrase I just used, and that just about no leftists would get it.


72 posted on 05/07/2006 8:05:45 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
The American people are in severe denial about reality

Idiocy is running rampant tonight.

Hint: look up the total amount of theaters playing United 93. You'll find a rather low number.
73 posted on 05/07/2006 8:13:01 PM PDT by Terpfen
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To: donna
Osama enjoyed 9/11 and now we've made a recruiting film for him.

Were it not for some of the illegal immigration threads, this would truly be one of the most uninformed statements I have ever read.

A movie about people resisting a terrorist hijacking... as a recruitment tool?!
74 posted on 05/07/2006 8:16:11 PM PDT by Terpfen
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To: Terpfen
A movie about people resisting a terrorist hijacking... as a recruitment tool?!

That's my point isn't it. The movie makes the passengers and the terrorists equal. So the viewer gets to decide who is good and who is evil.

Pretend that you are Osama and watch the movie - it's stunning (and evil) what the director accomplished.

75 posted on 05/07/2006 9:08:00 PM PDT by donna
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To: Ramius

Flight 93 is not showing in our local theatres, yet our local multiplex is devoting two screens for Tom Cruise's new Mission Impossible movie. Does anyone know how movies get booked into theatres?


76 posted on 05/07/2006 9:11:34 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: nothingnew

I was at a family dinner with the extended clan, and we talked about comedy movies, no other type of movie. I was afraid to ask if anyone had seen Flight 93.


77 posted on 05/07/2006 9:12:31 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: donna

If I'm Osama watching United 93, I'm seeing Americans resist and my plan fail.

Failure is not a recruitment tool.


78 posted on 05/07/2006 9:16:30 PM PDT by Terpfen
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To: Terpfen

Terror isn't killing - it is terrorizing.

In Osama Bin Laden's world, United 93 was not a failure. His men terrorized then went to heaven to be greeted by 70 virgins.


79 posted on 05/07/2006 9:23:52 PM PDT by donna
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To: Terpfen
I am amazed that if you don't see this movie, you suck?

This is whacked.

80 posted on 05/07/2006 9:25:13 PM PDT by Afronaut (America is for Americans, but not anymore)
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