Posted on 05/06/2006 1:34:58 AM PDT by wotan
Well I have to say the Stealth Rockefeller Republicans are ruining the party. Conservatives like nothing done halfway. And won't tolerate someone who is half-handed.
Either it stops, or the GOP with collapse from within without any assistance from the Dems.
You know it, I know it, we all suspected it and now it is happening.
Ain't that lovely, Ray? We've "got a disease" that "must be stopped".
Instead of satisfying conservatives by doing the right thing, they're determinded to purge them from the Party.
If, God forbid, they succeed, I hope they have fun trying to recruit the Hispanics. Maybe they can buy lists from ANSWER.
Every 10-12 years, the RNC has to do some house cleaning.
Care to give us some documented examples of when the RNC did such a thing? Or is this just a figment of your imagination.
Bush's term is over in "08 and the party will be forced to abandon it's extreme right wing to move to the center where the general electorate is.
Care to explain how one goes about such a purge?
Also, it will be in response to the DNC move to the center as well.
Sorry, bub. The DNC and its congressional leadership went irretreivably left quite some time ago. They don't know the way back.
It will be quite a battle for supremacy, and nobody that belongs to this so called true conservative wing of the party will be happy with the candidates that emerge from the primary fights.
Do you write fiction for a living?
The candidates will both be centrists, and both the extreme left wing and the right wing of each party will be alienated. There will be a mad scramble on both sides for third parties, and the winner will be chosen as a result of who is split worse, and who has more apathetic voters stay home.
Spoken with the confidence of a prophet.
I can't, at this time predict who that will be.
Crystal ball go fuzzy?
It depends on how many blue dog Democrats we pick up...
Hey, you might get all six of them that are left!
We are certain to suffer some severe loss in seats, but we may be able to hold on to the reigns.
"Reigns"? Hah...
One thing is clear. The Republican party will not look like it does today.
Without conservatives, what is left of it will look like a trial-size Democrat Party.
We cannot win elections with a somewhat large segment that is at war with the rest of the party.
Looks to me, reading your posts, that it is YOU that is "at war" with the majority in the GOP.
We cut Buchanan loose during the last upheaval...
Delusions of grandeur.
...and I would think that this cut will be much larger and deeper, based on the rhetoric coming from right wing congress critters.
Your repeated use of the word "right-wing" in a derogatory manner says much about where you're coming from.
The RNC needs to stop pussy footing and start playing hardball, or we will lose.
The RNC and its affiliates has never stopped "playing hardball" against conservatives. In fact, it is that very attitude that has led us to where we are now. And your solution to the bleeding is to cut the victim some more. Just brilliant.
We need to look this in the eye and take it to it's ultimate conclusion now, before it is too late to rebuild the base for the '08 general elections.
You're about five years behind Rove, and too ignorant to know that Rove's similiar plan died in the streets with marching illegal aliens...
...if we don't, it will be 2012 before we see power again.
You're from what I call the PIG wing of the party, obviously: "Power Is God".
I don't know, but it will all fit in a shoebox.
That sums it up well.
Those who think power is an end in itself are in a self-destructive delusion.
Campaign '06 election slogan?
Conservative (and Proud of It!) Party, anybody?
2006 may be a grand opportunity to begin taking our country/government back.
Minding the US Constitution, Illegal immigration (and border security), WINNING! the War on Terror and fundamental tax reform may be the four issues we can start with.
There are others, but these may just resonate with the American people and become the catalyst for a Conservative takeover.
Ideas? Comments?
'Far right' is a perjorative. That is how the left describes us. Why would you use their terminology.
What is so 'far right' about believing in limited constitutional government? That is what the Founders gave us and that's what we want.
RINO is an accurate description of those who put the "R" beside their name, but believe and behave more like a "D".
If you take that as offensive, then change your ways.
Finally, if you make excuses for a president who cares more about the feeling of illegal aliens than he does for those of the American people, then you are an apologist. Again, that's just what you are by definition.
So, you RINO apologists will compromise whatever principle that you have and whine when we don't go along with you. All you are doing is slowly giving up our liberty while you think you are doing something noble. The bottom line is that you are simply enabling those who hate liberty.
Or maybe you are just hoping the alligator will eat you last and won't still be hungry when he gets to you.
It's so funny to see the press pray that the Republican party fights with GWB. On the issue of illegal immigration and amnesty, we differ. We aren't, however, going to stop voting for Republicans and start voting for Democrats.
The only thing that will sink the Republican House and Senate is wishy-washiness on immigration.
You are right. I did confuse you with someone who said that he just switched parties. I think it was because your arguments were so similar. And weak.
That's a very tall order, my friend.
Not an order, just a suggestion.
We are not welcome in either major political party, and the minor ones are not consrevative.
What to do?
BINGO!!!
Dead on.. You hit the nail on the head. If they lose big time, then the message will be sent. Go the lib way, and your time will be short.
Sorry that I'm equivocating.
I really don't have the answer right now.
Get off your insignificant high horse.
I didn't suggest a godless America. I said that the government has no role in charity whether it was a faith based one or a godless one.
Do you think that what ever Congress does is okay? Do you believe that when the SCOTUS confirms something as constitutional, that that is the final word? I guess that you are just fine with Roe v Wade and McCain Feingold and all the gun ban laws then too, right?
Without using emanations from penumbras, show me where the federal government has a legitimate role in charity, in banning guns, or in letting babies be murdered.
As a clue, the man largely responsible for writing the constitution says that he couldn't find any justification for taking from one man to relieve the suffering of another. That has always been and should forever remain the domain of individuals, not government.
You didn't hear complaints? Maybe it was because you closed your ears and mind to them. Maybe it was because many people did want to help relieve the suffering and they send millions of dollars of their own volition to help. Maybe it was because people just didn't want to be seen as uncaring by bringing up a little thing like the Consitution after such devastation and personal tragedy. Whether there were complaints or not, whether they were spoken or not, that still doesn't justify the government doing things that the Constitution does not specifically authorize them to do.
And in my opinion, the fed has no business covering the losses of homes, businesses, or even the lives of those lost in crime, acts or terrorism, or in natural disasters. The way they handed out money after 9/11 and Katrina was nothing short of criminal. It was theft from the rest of the country. The American people donated freely and generously on their own. If they had more of their own money (not confiscated by government through taxation) they would have given even more.
You are so full of yourself that you can't even see when someone isn't arguing with you.
Far from disagreeing with at least part of your analysis, I was seeking to confirm that my suspicions were right that the mushy middle of the Republican Party wants to shed the conservatives because the middle only cares about retaining power and cares not about principle. And you confirmed it.
However, that is where our agreement ends. The truth is that if we don't shed you and your ilk (by becoming a party of principle and only taking one side of an issue) we will be doomed to socialism sooner rather than later. You will give up everything in principle to remain in power in fact.
How does that distinquish you from the Dems?
How many illegals do you have on your payroll? Do you pay them legal (above minimum wage) and competitive wages? Do you withhold and remit to government, the appropriate taxes?
Of course, those are rhetorical questions because I expect that you would deny that you have any or would lie to cover yourself.
Why do you want the illegals to be here? What's in it for you?
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