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To: Porkandbeeny
"Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see." (Hebrews 11:1)

I find your definition of faith far more confusing than the clear meaning of Scripture.

OK, but is it faith if your are hoping for something that is untrue? I would argue that it is not true faith. If it is, then Christianity has no claim to faith any more than a Buddhist or Muslim, since they all believe in things they do not see. The difference is truth. Of all the differing beliefs, they cannot all be true. There must be only one truth, one faith. The rest are false and powerless.

Furthermore, your argument about the rotation of the earth is ridiculous. It only makes sense if you assume that creation took longer than six normal days, but you're supporting the idea that creation took longer than six normal days by citing the possibility that the earth rotated slower. It's a circular argument. (If A, then B, therefore A)

No, not a circular argument, but a possibility, yes. We are presented with widely known, common, overwhelming evidence that the creation of the earth took longer than six of our current days. There are a number of ways that the Genesis account can be seen to harmonize with those plain facts. I have only presented one possibility, not proclaimed it to be the certain truth.

I simply don't get some people's denial-based faith. It's almost as if some believe that their religion isn't supposed to make sense or harmonize with plain truth. I believe all truth, be it religious, scientific, economic, political, etc., is self-consistent and harmonious. Where they do not appear to harmonize or agree, one part or another is simply not true.

40 posted on 05/05/2006 9:29:22 AM PDT by TChris ("Wake up, America. This is serious." - Ben Stein)
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To: TChris

"OK, but is it faith if your are hoping for something that is untrue? I would argue that it is not true faith. If it is, then Christianity has no claim to faith any more than a Buddhist or Muslim, since they all believe in things they do not see. The difference is truth. Of all the differing beliefs, they cannot all be true. There must be only one truth, one faith. The rest are false and powerless."

"There is no higher religion than truth." - M. Gandhi


80 posted on 05/05/2006 11:24:11 AM PDT by WOSG (Faith & Reason)
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