[GSlob]

"The fact that there is a Vatican astronomer does remind us where much western science began."
Papal astrologer position dates from 15th century, may be even earlier.

[cripplecreek]

When the church was all powerfull it did a lot of damage to good science. I'm not thrilled with the mixing of the two. There was a time when openly saying that the earth and planets revolved around the sun was seen as blaspheme and could be deadly.