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To: SoothingDave
You're soothing, Dave, but on this point I must disagree:
If science lies to us, and is not to be believed, we must believe that events that happen happen only because the whims of the gods, or of God in our monotheistic era.
There are not only these two exclusive choices. Science does not "lie" to us, though some of its interpreters might, "science" is an attempt to understand and explain that which occurs around us, to us, and in spite of us.

Rain, and winds, and other myriad events are in motion at all times. Does God direct them all? No, but He directed their inception and, if one believes the Scriptures, He has, at times, directed them specifically. (Which is why it is not completely outside of true Judeo-Christian faith to look up for the bolt... better than being swallowed up by the ground.)

= )

109 posted on 05/05/2006 12:45:01 PM PDT by AnnaZ (Victory at all costs-in spite of all terror-however long and hard the road may be-for survival)
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To: AnnaZ
There are not only these two exclusive choices. Science does not "lie" to us, though some of its interpreters might, "science" is an attempt to understand and explain that which occurs around us, to us, and in spite of us.

Rain, and winds, and other myriad events are in motion at all times. Does God direct them all? No, but He directed their inception and, if one believes the Scriptures, He has, at times, directed them specifically. (Which is why it is not completely outside of true Judeo-Christian faith to look up for the bolt... better than being swallowed up by the ground.)

I'm sorry, I can't disagree with any of this. :-)

I was attempting to explain what the Brother may have meant by "pagan." And how shutting yourself off in a distrust of science can lead to superstition.

SD

116 posted on 05/05/2006 12:52:16 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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