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Illegal Immigration Counter Protesters Detained
OrbusMax ^ | 5/4/06 | SteveB

Posted on 05/04/2006 8:53:59 AM PDT by StevenB

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To: SW6906

"(I don't think it is a law)"

Actually, it is. Frivolous use of a postage paid reply envelope has been successfully prosecuted as mail fraud, chiefly against rabid anti-"junk mail" sorts, who have been known to send every one they encounter back just to create an expense and an annoyance. Prepaid return shipping labels have been attached to rocks ... you get the picture. If it gets to be too big of an issue (and they do have to pay for every single one sent), you can bet they'll come after you if they can find you.


181 posted on 05/04/2006 2:30:26 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: clawrence3; Dead Corpse; Joe Brower
Would you agree that anyone brandishing a weapon in these circumstances, or otherwise inciting a riot, should be arrested?

Brandishing a weapon is in no way inciting a riot, despite what you Brady Republicans might think.

182 posted on 05/04/2006 2:31:48 PM PDT by jmc813 (The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

What training has the department given on open carry contacts and are they consistent with that training?


183 posted on 05/04/2006 2:32:27 PM PDT by Horatio Gates (When it hits the fan, it may not be evenly distributed.)
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To: jmc813

LOL - it can be.


184 posted on 05/04/2006 2:33:12 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: Kimberly GG

just because they say they are not doesn'y mean anything.
We know they are they know they are, and the gov't will let them get away with it.


http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/
this is what happens
and they will let it continue.
so it looks like we have to bend over to "assist" the poeple who are invading our country.
Seems inevitable.
But they want us to cower down and just accept everything I say f* that crap.
Don't let these people win.


185 posted on 05/04/2006 2:34:32 PM PDT by ziggy_dlo ("Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country" JFK)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I always do. This way there is no problem with frivolity because I'm paying for it.


186 posted on 05/04/2006 2:34:47 PM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: clawrence3

Welcome back BTW. You're typically less annoying than the others on your side. Glad the suspension was not permanant.


187 posted on 05/04/2006 2:37:38 PM PDT by jmc813 (The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
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To: jmc813

Thanks - it said I was suspended for "advocating violence" even though I did not - so I guess I know what it feels like to be these counter-protesters arrested "wrongly" ; )


188 posted on 05/04/2006 2:39:06 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
The point is to obey the law in all regards.

Tell it to the officers violating the Constitution.

189 posted on 05/04/2006 2:39:56 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Sir Gawain

Which officers? The Second Amendment does not protect taking firearms to demonstrations in Alabama, for instance.


190 posted on 05/04/2006 2:41:22 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3

Those who wanted the chance for American citizenship should have applied for legal entry. That's the law.

What does filing taxes improve their standing? If they enter the country illegally and then use false identification in order to get a ss#, and then use that falsly acquired ss# to file taxes and get a refund...how many more laws have they broken?


191 posted on 05/04/2006 2:42:32 PM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: clawrence3
The Second Amendment does not protect taking firearms to demonstrations in Alabama, for instance.

I don't know what 2nd Amendment you're reading, but it's not the same as the one I'm reading.

192 posted on 05/04/2006 2:43:49 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: clawrence3
Sorry to get back to what this thread was about, but...

We can argue all we want about the law, but it would almost be suicide to start shooting when you're outnumbered. Most CC weapons aren't miniguns with an endless supply of ammunition.
193 posted on 05/04/2006 2:46:39 PM PDT by Rick Deckard
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To: Kimberly GG

"use false identification in order to get a ss#, and then use that falsly acquired ss# to file taxes and get a refund"

That would be identity theft and tax fraud, criminal activity for us mere citizens.


194 posted on 05/04/2006 2:49:13 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Sir Gawain

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.


195 posted on 05/04/2006 2:49:59 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3

Where do you draw the line?

Do you think our borders with Mexico and Canada should be wide open to all sorts of illegal activities?

Does the United States have the right to secure the borders?

Do you think anyone who wants to come into this country should be allowed to?

Do you think we have the right to check people out before they come into this country?

Do you think anyone who wants US Citizenship should be granted it without any requirements?

Should anyone who wants to work here be allowed to, even if we have enough employees here already?

Should citizens of this country have to compete with citizens of another country for jobs here?

Is it all right with you if terrorists can just walk right into this country?

Should a citizen of another country be allowed to get free medical care at our facilities?

Do you believe the Southwest belongs to the United States or do you think it belongs to Mexico or La Raza or some other group? Who do you think legally owns the Southwest right now?

Do you believe in following the law, or only those you happen to agree with?


196 posted on 05/04/2006 2:51:05 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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To: Rick Deckard
Maybe these counter-protesters wanted to commit suicide then - my point is how are the police supposed to know?
197 posted on 05/04/2006 2:51:28 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
Now where in that amendment does your statement hold true?

The Second Amendment does not protect taking firearms to demonstrations in Alabama, for instance.

198 posted on 05/04/2006 2:51:56 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: clawrence3

"Maybe these counter-protesters wanted to commit suicide then"

The tacit assumption underlying your comment is that the protestors themselves were armed. A correct assumption, in my opinion. But, no hue and cry, and no arrests. Does this not bother you at all?


199 posted on 05/04/2006 2:53:42 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: clawrence3

Do you realize that not all illegals are good people?


200 posted on 05/04/2006 2:55:22 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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