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1 posted on 05/04/2006 7:37:16 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone

Whatever happened to letting the free market solve this?


2 posted on 05/04/2006 7:38:28 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (FR's most controversial FReeper)
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To: areafiftyone

Apology for slavery (any Americans still alive who owned slaves)?

Allow more immigrants in to depress high-tech wages?

Sen. Allen's tanking pretty damned fast in my book!


3 posted on 05/04/2006 7:40:43 AM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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"I want the United States to be the world capital of innovation. And to achieve that goal, we must adapt, innovate and compete by allowing them to attract highly skilled individuals so that they can become fully productive citizens," said Allen.

Another contender for the 'Prince of Euphemism'

Hey POE what is wrong with employing OUR people again?

4 posted on 05/04/2006 7:41:00 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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If you need trained people why not train Americans?


5 posted on 05/04/2006 7:42:36 AM PDT by orinoco
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Allen is off my dance card.


6 posted on 05/04/2006 7:43:39 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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And they wonder why American kids are not interested in pursuing engineering and science careers.

Maybe this flood of outsiders displacing Americans will only stop when we have H-1 visas for reporters, pundits, politicians, and CEOs.

After all, could an imported Paraguayan CEO paid $80,000 a year screw up ENRON any worse than Ken Lay did?


8 posted on 05/04/2006 7:44:12 AM PDT by oldbill
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the bill exempts from the H1-B cap any professional who has earned a post-graduate degree from an accredited college or university in the United States.

??!! Over half the graduates in engineering are foreign.

10 posted on 05/04/2006 7:46:12 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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This guarantees I will vote AGAINST him when he runs for president.


14 posted on 05/04/2006 7:48:26 AM PDT by Mini-14
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Employers need tech workers who are not only trained, but experienced.

Yeah, there are lots of older high-tech workers out there who haven't gotten jobs since the 2002 slump. How about hiring them back first and THEN we'll talk about bringing in more H1-B visa folks?

15 posted on 05/04/2006 7:49:45 AM PDT by dirtboy
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This is not going to help serve motivate my teenagers to study their science, chemistry and math, seeing as Third-Worlders will be imported to do it for us on the cheap.
16 posted on 05/04/2006 7:50:31 AM PDT by Plutarch
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Watch both the dems and the repugs line up behind him to support this. The average American no longer has representation in our federal government.


21 posted on 05/04/2006 7:58:50 AM PDT by piceapungens
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"Many of these students are studying engineering, science and technology, which are vital for the future competitiveness of our country

Many of the students are loyal to their mother countries, and are here to exploit our military technology.

24 posted on 05/04/2006 8:01:53 AM PDT by itsahoot ("God has given to each a measure of Faith") See we don't even get to pick how much of that we have.)
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How about some attention to our own people, George? Our own people need jobs.


29 posted on 05/04/2006 8:06:30 AM PDT by tkathy (The "can do" party can fix anything. The "do-nothing" party always makes things worse.)
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I have my first disagreement with Senator Allen.

Just say no to H1B's.

These guys never ever go back to their home country and take jobs Americans will do.

If we need more tech people then change some of the many liberal arts colleges to Math and Science.
32 posted on 05/04/2006 8:10:57 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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Oh, wonderful. Fifty thousand more H-1Bs that I'll be competing with the next time I change employers. I'm pretty confident about my ability to get a job should I have to--I've done it before--but I've had way too many friends, skilled programmers, who have been out of the field for YEARS after getting laid off while companies are bringing in Indians by the thousands. And my wife's worked for an immigration lawyer and has seen the tricks these companies use--believe me, they find ways around the rules about having to advertise the jobs for Americans first, and having to pay prevailing wages to the visaholder.

Free trade is one thing and I'm for it where it doesn't impact national security. But with a big labor glut out there in the IT industry, why the heck do we need 50,000 more H-1Bs a year? We don't.

}:-)4


35 posted on 05/04/2006 8:15:27 AM PDT by Moose4 (Please don't call me "white trash." I prefer "Caucasian recyclable.")
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To: Corin Stormhands
Support George Allen

Senator George Allen 2006

44 posted on 05/04/2006 9:01:16 AM PDT by Ligeia (Help unseat Jim Moran: http://www.tomodonoghue.com/about.html)
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Pass it on.....


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45 posted on 05/04/2006 9:08:30 AM PDT by dcnd9
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What type of VISAS will be given to all of the illegal aliens?


47 posted on 05/04/2006 9:17:07 AM PDT by petkus
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Currently, the number of visas for high-tech workers allowed under the H1-B program is capped at 65,000. This bill increases that number to 115,000 and creates a market-based cap whereby unused visas can be carried forward to the next year. In addition, the bill exempts from the H1-B cap any professional who has earned a post-graduate degree from an accredited college or university in the United States.

This is a load of BULLcrap. Those accredited degrees can be transferred over from foreign universities with a few tricks.

I didn't help the Republicrats get elected so they could slit my econmic throat.

51 posted on 05/04/2006 9:27:38 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Before I refuse to take your questions, I have an opening statement. - Reagan)
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I want to expand the H1B program and I want to change it.

We get the skills of higher educated workers with the H1B program, but those workers are slaves. They are bound, by the terms of the H1B visa to working only for the employer that sponsored the H1B visa, unless that employer will voluntarily release them from that requirement and let them find another H1B visa sponsor.

However, releasing them can only release them to another sponsor for a renewal of their H1B visa. Unless and until they get an H1B visa sponsor who will help them get a permanent resident visa - green card - and be relieved from the obligation to work only for that employer, they are like bonded servants.

I had a friend who was an H1B visa holder, working for one of the major accounting firms, providing services (IT management consulting) in which the firm was billing (me) six or seven times the hourly rate they were paying him; while his citizen peers in the company were being paid at least half of their billing rate - because they could go work somewhere else if they wanted.

To make matters worse, the firm here broke promises to their associates in his home country (from which the firm here found him), and those associates and their peers had blackballed him in their industry back home, because he would not return to work for them, after those broken promises became known (promises he was not a party to).

I want to see the H1B visa program expanded, greatly, but I want it to be an immediate path to citizenship, not an obligation to be in perpetual servitude to a single employer.

I want foreigners with commanding skills to be allowed to apply for an H1B visa themselves; to be given 90 days to find employment here or return home (most will already have their job applications), and after they find a job they get a green card and can, if they choose, immediately begin to apply for citizenship.

I want H1B visa holders free to take their skills to any US employer, and they should get a green card once their 90 day H1B period has ended and they have found a job here.

That also reduces the "threat" to citizens already here in their profession, because unlike the H1B visa now, there would be no incentive or ability for employers to try to get away with paying the H1B visa holders less, and undercut how many slots are open to those who can demand a "regular" salary.

Expand the H1B and end its servitude provisions.


54 posted on 05/04/2006 9:31:30 AM PDT by Wuli
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