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How is money made in opposing evolution?

I am deeply impressed by a "scientific" concept that demands protection by government, lest any school teacher give voice to any doubts or misgivings as to its veracity, or raise questions regarding its claims; and this in the land of Freedom of Speech.
The Theory (or is it now a Law?) of Evolution, in its application to questions of the origin of the phenomenon we call "life," and the existence of living entities in all their well-nigh incomprehensible diversity of form and function, is the only conceptual framework devised by the supposedly infallible human intellect that has been granted the status of exemption from the possibility of falsification.


53 posted on 05/03/2006 9:42:52 AM PDT by Elsiejay (.)
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To: Elsiejay
How is money made in opposing evolution?

By raising funds from the benighted to fight Satan's worldly power grab. Anyone who doesn't think there is money to be made here hasn't come across televangelists.

56 posted on 05/03/2006 9:46:29 AM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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"How is money made in opposing evolution?"

Books, pamphlets, seminars...

"I am deeply impressed by a "scientific" concept that demands protection by government,"

Not me; ID doesn't impress me at all.

"The Theory (or is it now a Law?)"

Theory is the highest state a claim can become in science.

"The Theory (or is it now a Law?) of Evolution, in its application to questions of the origin of the phenomenon we call "life," "

It doesn't make any claims about the origins of life.

"is the only conceptual framework devised by the supposedly infallible human intellect that has been granted the status of exemption from the possibility of falsification."

Nonsense. ID on the other hand, is unfalsifiable, because it posits a Designer (God) that can do anything, anywhere, anytime, in unknowable, unobservable, untestable ways.
57 posted on 05/03/2006 9:46:31 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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The law isn't there to prevent teachers from discussing. It's there to prevent administrators from mandating the teaching of creationism as equivalent to science.

If you really want schools to engage in critical, scientific analysis of the Bible, go for it.


59 posted on 05/03/2006 9:49:05 AM PDT by js1138 (somewhere, some time ago, something happened, but whatever it was, wasn't evolution)
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To: Elsiejay
I am deeply impressed by a "scientific" concept that demands protection by government, lest any school teacher give voice to any doubts or misgivings as to its veracity, or raise questions regarding its claims; and this in the land of Freedom of Speech.

Actually, it needs protection from government. The major lawsuits, from Scopes on down, have been over attempts by government to tell science teachers what to teach.

89 posted on 05/03/2006 10:26:33 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Elsiejay
I am deeply impressed by a "scientific" concept that demands protection by government, lest any school teacher give voice to any doubts or misgivings as to its veracity, or raise questions regarding its claims; and this in the land of Freedom of Speech.

I am deeply impressed by a scientific concept that if not accepted, Pat Robertson puts a curse on you like he did to Dover. Trust me, if you were going after other sciences, like Quantum Physics like you were Evolution, we would be equally up in arms.

The Theory (or is it now a Law?) of Evolution, in its application to questions of the origin of the phenomenon we call "life," and the existence of living entities in all their well-nigh incomprehensible diversity of form and function, is the only conceptual framework devised by the supposedly infallible human intellect that has been granted the status of exemption from the possibility of falsification.

Bravo!!! What a great piece of propaganda... if only Leni Riefenstahl was alive to film you delivering this as a speech.

Now... let's drop the propaganda here... you are not fooling anyone. It isn't Evolution that needs protecting from your ilk but Science itself. You are attempting to push into public school science classes an idea that doesn't pass even the most basic of scientific scrutiny. Why? Has any Scientific theory been pushed in the "bottom up" fashion before? Nope. Now why? Why do you persist in doing this?

I ask the crazy liberal history teachers the same thing. Why do you push your own Anti-American brand of history onto the unsuspecting minds of mush?

Well... you and the brown-shirt liberals are two sides of the same coin in my book. You both push lies that have no proof, no evidence, but because you feel your way is so superior that you MUST be right you feel it is your religious duty to do so irregardless of the consequences.

91 posted on 05/03/2006 10:27:47 AM PDT by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: Elsiejay
How is money made in opposing evolution?

Primarily book sales and speaking fees, but donations and entrance fees to public attractions as well. Kent Hovind made a career worth millions out of lying about evolutionary science and creationism. Dupes flocked to him, money in hand. I suppose the fact that he criminally evaded his taxes helped his income a bit.

I am deeply impressed by a "scientific" concept that demands protection by government... and this in the land of Freedom of Speech.

You suggest that mainstream biology is demanding special protection by the government. This is simply incorrect. What is happening is that educators, scientists and parents are requesting protection from the establishment of religion by special interest groups, who wish to teach their religion in public schools, or at least undermine everything which they perceive to be counter to their religious views. You mentioned "Freedom of Speech" in your post; I suggest you read the entirety of the First Amendment and notice that it prohibits government establishment of religion.

[Evolution] is the only conceptual framework devised... which has been granted the status of exemption from the possibility of falsification.

Again, the ridiculous assertion that it has been somehow made illegal to disprove evolutionary theory. Could you please provide the official statement of exempted status from falsification? Which government organization conferred such status?
105 posted on 05/03/2006 10:45:11 AM PDT by aNYCguy
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