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"Why else would so many atheists act as if there was something "wicked" or "immoral" about denying evolution?"

They don't, you made it up. :) BTW, most people who accept evolution are Christian in the USA, not atheists.

Oh come now. Why are evolutionists on a crusade if there is no fundamental belief in some sort of moral obligation? Why the romantic view of people like Galileo as "martyrs" if what they discovered was of no import whatsoever?

The people who insist the loudest that life has no meaning are the very ones who act the most as if this were not the case. I wonder why you can't see that. Atheists loudly condemn past generations for believing the earth was the center of the universe, but they are the ones who created and sponsor Earth Day and encourage nature worship and even a worldwide totalitarian state to ensure the viability of life on this supposedly totally unimportant planet. Why? If life really is just a fluke, why investigate anything? Ever? Why solve "problems?" Why teach the truth? Why anything at all? I don't see ants fretting themselves into anemia over "problems" or "ethics" or the possibility that a meteor may one day destory this meaningless planet, but the people who insist the universe doesn't care about us act as if the destruction of the earth would frustrate the entire reason for the universe's existence.

BTW, most people who accept evolution are Christian in the USA, not atheists.

Stop playing games. Neither you nor I are chr*stians, and many chr*stian Theistic evolutionists are "ID"ers ("ID" merely being Theistic evolution that insists that G-d occasionally slips from the realm of speculation into the world of hard facts). But I find it most interesting that atheist evolutionists have so much scorn for people like me while respecting people who listen to the voice of science when it comes to creation but who cover their ears and say "La-la-la!" when science tries to tell them that a man can't rise from the dead or that bread and wine can't become the body and blood of a man who supposedly died 2000 years ago. At least people like me are consistent. But somehow this curious attitude seems illustrative of the entire evolutionist position: the purpose of life is to acknowledge the purposelessness of life.

Make lots of money, now. Make Ms. Rand proud.

"Oh come now. Why are evolutionists on a crusade if there is no fundamental belief in some sort of moral obligation?"

They aren't on a crusade.

"Why the romantic view of people like Galileo as "martyrs" if what they discovered was of no import whatsoever?"

He's used by both sides actually, though it's laughable when an anti-evo tries to paint themselves as a victim of repression. What is important is that rational thought is not abandoned for mysticism, like ID/creationism.

"The people who insist the loudest that life has no meaning are the very ones who act the most as if this were not the case."

Again you make things up. Evolution does not say that life has no meaning, nor do supporters of evolution say that.

"Atheists loudly condemn past generations for believing the earth was the center of the universe, but they are the ones who created and sponsor Earth Day and encourage nature worship and even a worldwide totalitarian state to ensure the viability of life on this supposedly totally unimportant planet."

No, that's socialists. BTW, evolution isn't atheistic anyway, so who cares what atheists say or don't say?

"Stop playing games."

Stop making things up. :)

"Neither you nor I are chr*stians, and many chr*stian Theistic evolutionists are "ID"ers ("ID" merely being Theistic evolution that insists that G-d occasionally slips from the realm of speculation into the world of hard facts)."

Actually, ID says that God (the designer) never enters the world of hard facts; if he did, it would be possible to find some trace of Him, some evidence. Instead, ID'ers say that an unknowable designer did unknowable things at an unknowable time in an untestable way. It's a sham.

Theistic evolutionists do not pretend that their theology is science.

My point stands; most people who accept that evolution is correct (common descent, descent with modification) are also Christians.

"At least people like me are consistent."

Consistently wrong.

"But somehow this curious attitude seems illustrative of the entire evolutionist position: the purpose of life is to acknowledge the purposelessness of life."

That's a lie.

"Make lots of money, now."

That's what the ID'ers/creationist proponents are doing; making money off of fools.