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To: Quix
I guess we'll have to just differ on our definitions of what panspermia is or will be labeled as, defined as.

Actually, panspermia is well-defined. Your definition of the term is not the standard accepted definition.

I suppose you could call the ET explanation a variant of Intelligent Design--certainly.

It is a variant of intelligent design. Proponents of intelligent design have conceded that the "designer" could in fact be an extraterrestrial agent.

But, that wouldn't fit the political agenda of so many evolutionists so rabidly hostile to Christianity etc.

Please explain.

I have plenty of (for me and many I know) evidence regarding such. But none I want to bother sharing here.

Then, again, why should what you say be believed?

But you could track it down at Dr Stephen Greer's DISCLOSURE PROJECT and a plethora of other sites. But it would be a bit of a tedious task. It's not set out per se as about that topic. The evidence is mixed in amidst a bunch of other stuff of varying quality and import, depending on the sources and sites etc.

I was not aware that the Disclosure Project included in its agenda an attempt to replace the theory of evolution with a theory stating that extraterrestrials were involved with the development of life on earth. Do you have a reference? Moreover, I was also not aware that the Disclosure Project had been making any significant headway amongst biologists.
457 posted on 05/03/2006 11:29:32 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio; metmom; WKB
Dimensio you make many perhaps hundreds statements that might suggest you speak knowingly/or unknowingly> for various groups of individuals, as here this most common inference to the 'biologist's'

A quick google search reveals there are all sorts of biologists in wide area of interests, and they come from a broad range of qualifications and experience. Just which ones do Dimensio speak for?

And BTW, you have never established yourself as a biologist scientist, nor an astute and accurate debater. Nor have you ever given any good reason why what you say should be believed.

Other than that though, you are quite a circular girl.

Wolf
458 posted on 05/04/2006 12:39:41 AM PDT by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: Dimensio
I guess we'll have to just differ on our definitions of what panspermia is or will be labeled as, defined as.

Actually, panspermia is well-defined. Your definition of the term is not the standard accepted definition.

You seem to ignore part of your own reference to the Wikipedia def of panspermia--the paragraph following noted that there was a lot of slipperiness or fuzziness in terms of the use of the term "panspermia." Certainly you are trying to restrict the definition narrowly. Your choice. As it is mine, to broaden it--as others have.

I suppose you could call the ET explanation a variant of Intelligent Design--certainly.

It is a variant of intelligent design. Proponents of intelligent design have conceded that the "designer" could in fact be an extraterrestrial agent.

Quite so. AND, it CAN also be construed as a variant of panspermia with ET's as the agents spreading life broadly through the universe.

But, that wouldn't fit the political agenda of so many evolutionists so rabidly hostile to Christianity etc.

Please explain.

I'm exceedingly skeptical that you NEED any explanation about that. IF you really seriously are interested in presentations of those FACTS, then the web has plenty of them that you can easily search out. I have no current need to go around and round with you about that.

I have plenty of (for me and many I know) evidence regarding such. But none I want to bother sharing here.

Then, again, why should what you say be believed?

I don't recall my calling you personally to believe anything. Of course, you are welcome to. I'd be blessed if you did. But I have no expectation that a long list of folks will believe a single word I write. I'm not, per se, writing to such folks sitting on the edge of my seat desperate for their agreement. I'm not THAT delusional.

However, there are folks of certain sets of mind and personality--who will search out truth regardless of where it leads them. Perhaps some of them will find some merit or at least have some curiosity triggered by what I write. That will be wonderful. Most of that will go on with lurkers whom I will never know about this side of eternity.

Those who prefer to vigorously . . . perhaps rigidly, narrowly, brittle-ly prefer to cling to their own limited constructions on reality are welcome to their world views. I have no need to try and teach every critter to sing. I can't really, even sing myself. But, I share for those for whom my words may be of some value. I sleep quite well whether they agree or disagree; believe or disbelieve.

Sufficient feedback has arrived over the years by FREEPMAIL and email and otherwise for me to be comforted that it's worth the bother. If it's not worth your bother--you are welcome to skip every post I write.

But you could track it down at Dr Stephen Greer's DISCLOSURE PROJECT and a plethora of other sites. But it would be a bit of a tedious task. It's not set out per se as about that topic. The evidence is mixed in amidst a bunch of other stuff of varying quality and import, depending on the sources and sites etc.

I was not aware that the Disclosure Project included in its agenda an attempt to replace the theory of evolution with a theory stating that extraterrestrials were involved with the development of life on earth. Do you have a reference? Moreover, I was also not aware that the Disclosure Project had been making any significant headway amongst biologists.

Of course not. I'm not sure which part of the following was unclear:

But it would be a bit of a tedious task. It's not set out per se as about that topic.

The evidence at the DISCLOSURE PROJECT site is incidental to other presentations, evidence, discussions, reports, personal experiences etc. I suspect you have learned some things incidentally while studying other things. It's a fairly common human experience.

Perhaps my: I have plenty of (for me and many I know) evidence regarding such. But none I want to bother sharing here. But you could track it down . . . was unclear.

1. Ferretting out the incidental evidence amongst piles of evidence with a different focus is not my need.
2. I don't plan to provide you with any reference. You are well able to research such things yourself.
3. YOU are most WELCOME to disbelieve every word I write, if it so suits you. 4. Those who are well read in the field are aware of the evidence I'm speaking of regarding the claims of variouis races of ET's.
5. Those who are lurking or otherwise constructively curious are also well able to read through the tons of evidence available at such sites as:

DISCLOSURE PROJECT HERE: http://www.disclosureproject.org/

ABOVE TOP SECRET FORUM HERE: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/

There's tons of such sites with info regarding the ET's claims about seeding earth with life; bio-engineering humans etc. But such info is LARGELY incidental to other issues and presentations in the field. Occasionally one may find a thread devoted to that topic. IF you are truly interested in such, you can search it out. I have no need to do that for you.

In terms of biologists and the topics at the DISCLOSURE SITE . . . biologists are represented more or less proportionally amongst the piles of documents in the field. That info, too, is even more incidentally available.

I would not expect biologists to--as a group--jump on the ET bandwagon unless and until the whole field is outted and more or less wholesale verified public knowledge. However, there are reports from some biologists who've had experiences and even some who've been involved in highly secret work related to the field. I have no need to track those references down either. Believe what you want.

Some folks are now claiming that the puppet masters will likely NEVER disclose, admit, declassify the whole vast area regarding ET's, UFO's etc. I think differently. I believe such phenomena will be involved in setting the world up for a global government--and--probably--even involved in enforcing such things in a very tyrannical, hyper controlling way.

The SLAG implant is one example of that. SLAve taG computer ID chip implant which will be required of all world citizens seems to have origins in the ET phenomena.

Those who believe that such will never be allowed in the public domain believe so because of all the botched super serious errors on the part of the human handlers in government and the realm of the puppet masters. Such folks are afraid of being lynched if their errors in managing the ET problem are revealed.

Others insist that ET's are not ready for it to be public and are preventing it. Others disagree and insist that at some point the ET's themselves will make things abundantly clear in a very overt and public way.

I'm just convinced that it all will factor into the rush to a global government. And, that at some point, ET's and UFOS will be 'routine' daily aspects of public reality very overtly.

Time will tell. Until then. Laugh at your leisure. Shake your head in dismay. Cluck your tongue. Guffaw in derision. It doesn't really matter that much. The die is cast. The script is mostly written. The play in many acts will unfold.

Cheers.

525 posted on 05/04/2006 10:05:27 AM PDT by Quix (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.-- Bible Belt Bumper Sticker)
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