[stands2reason]

one side was willing to use threats to silence the other side from even expressing its opinion, and supporting evidence, in open forum.

Open forum? IDers are welcome to present their findings to scientific journals. That is the forum that scientists use.

IDers think that public school is an "open forum" where scientific ideas are hashed out. They are mistaken. They cannot skip the scientific forum that every other scientific hypothesis has had to follow.

Tell me, silverleaf, what makes ID so special that it gets to skip the usual route of scientific theory?

[Stultis]

one side was willing to use threats to silence the other side from even expressing its opinion, and supporting evidence, in open forum.

Open forum? IDers are welcome to present their findings to scientific journals. That is the forum that scientists use.

IDers think that public school is an "open forum" where scientific ideas are hashed out. They are mistaken.

Exactly. The curricula merely reports (to the degree it's untainted and honest) the OUTCOME of the competitions among scientific ideas. But antievolutionists here consistently betray a notion that the curricula is where the competitions do (or should) occur.

This is entirely nonsensical. Although I'm in the market for a better analogy, I've said in the past that the ID/creationist position is like pretending that how a football game turned out is determined by what's written on the sports page, rather than what actually happened on the field; and that their prescription for curricula is like insisting that winning scores be reported for losing teams to make things "fair".

[gunsofaugust]

Why can't we just say God created it all and he chose how he wanted to do it. As a Catholic, we leave that to the men of science.

I can still recall Father Conagher pounding his fist and saying everything can't be exactly literal in the Good Book. Then he'd read very rapidly in Latin as we tried to stay awake. Then he'd pound his fist again and wake us all up.

[silverleaf]

ID'rs are not "welcome" to present their findings to science journals.

Just one overview.
http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&id=450

[silverleaf]

But some ID research does survive the hostility of crurrent secular orthodoxy and does make it into journals of science (rather than being sidetracked into social science publications or published by social science organizations which are then scorned as less than pure science...Catch 22)

Found one list: Presume these could be incorporated into science curricula? Oops, No. A judge said not.

http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&id=2640