Defending science education against intelligent design: a call to action

American Society for Clinical Investigation ^ | 01 May 2006 | Alan D. Attie, Elliot Sober, Ronald L. Numbers, etc.

[Elsie]

 

Actually, HappyFeet has already established that he or she knows absolutely nothing about the theory of evolution, starting with his or her false claim that the purpose of the theory of evolution is to destroy Christianity -- and with it, Western Civilization.

 

Well; the great man himself had something to say about that:

 

Charles Darwin (1809-1882)

"By further reflecting that the clearest evidence would be requisite to make any sane man believe in the miracles by which Christianity is supported,—and that the more we know of the fixed laws of nature the more incredible do miracles become,—that the men at that time were ignorant and credulous to a degree almost incomprehensible by us,—that the Gospels cannot be proven to have been written simultaneously with the events,—that they differ in many important details, far too important, as it seemed to me to be admitted as the usual inaccuracies of eye witnesses;—by such reflections as these, which I give not as having the least novelty or value, but as they influenced me, I gradually came to disbelieve in Christianity as a divine revelation. The fact that many fake religions have spread over large portions of the earth like wildfire had some weight with me. But I was very unwilling to give up my belief; I feel sure of this, for I can remember often and often inventing day-dreams of old letters between distinguished Romans, and manuscripts being discovered at Pompeii or elsewhere, which confirmed in the most striking manner all that was written in the Gospels. But I found it more and more difficult, with free scope given to my imagination, to invent evidence which would suffice to convince me. Thus disbelief crept over me at a very slow rate, but was at last complete. The rate was so slow that I felt no distress, and have never since doubted even for a single second that my conclusion was correct."

( Charles Darwin in his Autobiography of Charles Darwin, Dover Publications, 1992, p. 62. )

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Charles Darwin (1809-1882)

"I think that generally (& more & more as I grow older), but not always, that an agnostic would be the most correct description of my state of mind."

( Quoted from Adrian Desmond and James Moore, Darwin: The Life of a Tormented Evolutionist, New York: W. W. Norton & Company, 1991, p. 636. )

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 20.  If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning.
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[Elsie]

I have read virtually all of this author's works, most several times, over a period of decades. That's not exactly the same as Google® QUOTEMINEing.

And I have read my bibles 'many times', in various translations and versions, yet I get accused of "QUOTEMINING" the Bible.

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Weird; huh?

[Elsie]

why are there still fish?

Why are there still bacteria?

If GOD set all the rules in place to create all we see by evolving;

Why is there still GOD?

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(And does HE really care about the affairs of men?)

[Elsie]

A mighty orderly cloud chamber diagram!

[Elsie]

You can bank on THIS statement!

[Elsie]

I guess a non-pacifist might have enemies......

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[CarolinaGuitarman]

"I guess a non-pacifist might have enemies......"

Let's see; Do you accept reason as the greatest faculty Man possesses, that rational thought is better than mysticism, and that it is wrong to initiate force against another?

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"...yet I get accused of "QUOTEMINING" the Bible."

You do? When?

[Elsie]

yes

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"yes"

When did this happen? :)

[Elsie]

You do? When?

 

 

Why... right HERE:

 

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1624642/posts?page=551#551

 

 

To: Mamzelle

It's exactly like that. Read one of Elsie's quote-mined Biblical regurgitations, and comapre them with other threads' equivalents. You will see the same stuff over, and over, and over...

551 posted on 05/02/2006 11:02:41 AM CDT by 2nsdammit (By definition it's hard to get suicide bombers with experience.)

[ To 527]

 

 

It's exactly like that. Read one of Elsie's quote-mined Biblical regurgitations, and comapre them with other threads' equivalents. You will see the same stuff over, and over, and over...

551 posted on 05/02/2006 11:02:41 AM CDT by 2nsdammit (By definition it's hard to get suicide bombers with experience.)

[Elsie]

(Seems other folks call it Spam® - they just don't get it.)

[Elsie]

"Why do you ask me when did this happen?"

[CarolinaGuitarman]

I stand corrected. You don't quote-mine the Bible, you just post random verses. Quote-mining involves distortions of the original meaning/quote.

[Elsie]

I meant to ping you to 926...

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"Why do you ask me when did this happen?"

This is about you, not me.

[Elsie]

Oh!

And moog, too!

[Elsie]

"Why do you say I post random verses?"

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"Why do you say I post random verses?"

Is that question that interests you?

[HairOfTheDog]

why are there still fish?

Why are there still bacteria?

Why are there still democrats?

Why are there still creationists?

Because even when there is convincing evidence for a better way, we can't ever get ~everyone~ to agree.