Posted on 05/02/2006 11:56:46 PM PDT by Joe Bfstplk
"Proper Ethics" being employing Havoc, who was a MS Windows "Expert" (who somehow thinks he is outside the dime a dozen box they are in) and now works in a 7-11 slinging slurpees.
The fact his "marketable skills" have been replicated across multiple continents (in his case -- ready? -- MEXICO) and he has never bothered to upgrade them is lost.
Anyone who thought MS "skills" would take them beyond 1 step above burger-flipping deserves his/her life.
I would normally pity him, but his arrogance makes me laugh at him instead.
This would almost be a valid argument if Walmart were the only company to sell Chinese imports.
See my post 81 for Havoc's agenda
Okay, for the sake of argument, let's assume that companies once had a conscience. I don't believe this to be so, but let's assume it's true.
That over! No more conscience for companies! They can no longer depend on market share, loyalty from employees or even limited competition. Any company of any size is now operating on a global stage with ultra thin profit margins.
Also, Ford may have paid his employees enough to afford his cars, but again, he was weird. He established something called the Sociological Department at Ford. Basically, the company could drop in on any employee, at any time they wished to check out living conditions in the employee's home...again, he was a weird duck.
This didn't all start in a vacuum. And rationalizing about how things are "Now" doesn't excuse how we got here.
I took a "Mongoose" bicycle into Wal-Mart to get adjusted the other day.
While I was waiting in Customer Service, the greeter asked me if I knew where the mongoose was from.
I did not know.
She told me it was a cat-like carnivore from Asia.
She should know.
The greeter was 88 years old. Turns out she lived in Southeast Asia during the Vietnam War. Her late husband was high up in the World Bank.
I mean high up.
As I stood there listening to this dignified lady's life story, I was incredulous. For the last 10 years she worked as a greeter because she loved people. As I continued to stand there listening to her, my face was towards the folks coming in the door.
I observed how she treated each person with dignity and respect and love.
You see, these were her regular customers.
Each of them said hello to her.
And each had a unique need.
Some of them needed to know how to take something back to get a refund. Others were employees coming to work. One black lady employee came in carrying a coke and complaining of feeling ill. The greeter called her "honey" and reminded her that she could get an electrolyte (like Gatorade?)to help her feel better. Other customers were reminded/admonished to bring in their receipt when they were returning a product.
The greeter told me that when she broke her hip and was out for several months, people lined up outside the store on the day she came back !!!
I know why. This dignified lady radiated love and care for folks.
As I stood by her on that sunny Seattle springtime Monday morning, I realized that I was experiencing one of those moments in life where I saw a unique perspective of goodness in people.
I wasn't the same for the rest of the day.
And still am not.
EVERY DAY LOW PRICES AND TRANSCENDANT ENIGHTENMENT!
What a deal!
Ping to 86 for your competition.
I am sure Zell and Rush appreciate your taking specific quotes and applying it to any situation you don't like/understand.
Actually what you are saying is that so long as we allow 'free trade' as opposed to freedom to trade (quite something else), the mandate becomes one of "subvert your country for profit and ethics be damned". Good, we're on the same page - people with no ethics forcing "no ethics" upon us all against our wishes.
As for ford, he wasn't weird, he was a realist. You can produce a product all you want. If people can't afford it, you have no market. So, Ford payed a wage that allowed people to afford the product and thusly expanded his market by default. Greedy people tend to lose sight of the fact that money hoarded is stale, but money spent grows like wildfire. The Dims have been historically too dimwitted to note that too - or have neglected it to purposedly undermine
the American people. Now you're basically telling me that the no-ethics none of the time crowd (Elitist GOP bluebloods) are really of no more use than the piss-christ.
For all the heat over patriotism with regard to the left, I find it simply amazing that it doesn't bother you all when Companies are unpatriotic. Again, all that matters to your crowd is the profit - oh, and maybe once in a while saying whatever you must for sake of public opinion..
What, you're still here? Don't you have cars to chase?
Don't you have slurpees to sling?
Got any calls to have a company to have you use your "skills" to help them? Oh wait -- your "skills" are a dime a dozen. Learned Spanish to communicate with your replacements from Mexico?
Your inability to compete in the open marketplace explains your hate for the capitalist open marketplace.
You can fire off insults to me -- but I am employed in the IT industry and you, little boy, have to give 12 year old children change for their hot dogs.
Because your skills are a dime a dozen.
I didn't say that people have no ethics. I said corporations I no inherent loyalties to a country. And once again, they're machines. They're not patriotic, friendly or aimed at "family values." They're machines.
For example, wal-mart is a machine that buys cheap crap in China, India, etc. and puts in on shelves for sale in large buildings. Less frequently, they open a new large building to create more shelves for additional cheap crap from China and India, etc.
That's all the wal-mart machine does. The company exist for no other reason.
apologies with the typos on the last post. having problems typing tonight.
Dare I say if Ford were alive today, he would get eaten like a guppy in a shark tank. That whole assembly line idea allowed him to be so much more efficient that he could afford his excentricities.
A lot of those guys were just nuts. Ford was pretty batty. So was Howard Hughes. Shockley was a bit of a wack job. The list is pretty long.
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