[Dialup Llama]

When you choose all or nothing in this world, you will always, ALWAYS, get nothing.

We're not making an all or nothing proposition. We just want the border secured as is required by the Constitution.

The 911 comission said the terrorists used fake document and immigration fraud to live in the US. Homeland Security says we are going to get hit again (they tend to say this a lot around elections). Given these facts, border security is even more urgent. Yet the gov't has done nothing.

We blame Clinton for 911 because of his wall of separation. If we get hit again, we will similarly blame Bush for leaving the border unprotected.

[pollyannaish]

Even if they did not get in over the open border?