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To: spanalot

"How could the U.S. government tell the truth about what happened to American servicemen? To tell the truth would mean exposing American complicity in the murder of over a million innocent Russian people. It would entail a closer examination of the Allied alliance with one of the most brutal political regimes in all of history. And it would expose all the scheming and machinations that resulted in the abandonment of over 50,000 Allied soldiers to our communist "friends." "

Do your math spanalot. The 50,000 (oh, now it's "Allied") include those lost in France, Belgium, Germany (Western half), at sea in the Pacific and Atlantic, in Asia, etc. The actual numbers of those who were lost in the Soviet areas of activity are extremely low and do not approach the numbers you cite. Likewise, I would like to see some actual historical (NARA records for example) that can support your claim we sent 1 million Russians to their deaths (I've read some info about it on the net and if true it's disgusting, but your numbers don't add up at all).


377 posted on 05/08/2006 5:21:13 PM PDT by Romanov
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To: spanalot; GarySpFc; x5452

Educate yourself and pay attention to the personnel accounting statistics listed:

"World War II Working Group
The World War II Working Group of the U.S.-Russia Joint Commission on POW/MIAs is co-chaired on the American side by Dr. Timothy K. Nenninger, Chief of Modern Military Records at the U.S. National Archives and Records Administration in College Park, Maryland. The position of the Russian co-chair has been vacant since the Russian side began a thorough reorganization in June 2004. The Working Group has exchanged and examined thousands of documents dealing with the fates of American and Soviet POWs during and after World War II.

Through its investigative efforts, the World War II Working Group has confirmed that there were about 28,000 American Prisoners of War held by the Germans and their allies in camps on the Eastern Front. These prisoners came under Soviet control in the war’s final days, when the Red Army liberated the camps and occupied this territory. U.S. records show that about 25,000 of these POWs returned directly across the lines to U.S. military control. More than 2,800 others were returned to U.S. military control through the Soviet Black Sea port of Odessa (now Ukraine).

The World War II Working Group is investigating the possibility that some American POWs who remain unaccounted for from the Eastern camps may have been transferred to Soviet labor camps and were never repatriated.

The working group has also helped the Russians clarify the fates of more than 300,000 former Soviet POWs and displaced persons.



Wreckage of a U.S. Navy PV1 bomber found on Kamchatka Peninsula
in the Russian Far East. The seven crewmembers of this aircraft were
accounted for after the Commission sponsored a JPAC recovery operation
at this site in August 2001.

In August 2000, a joint mission led by General Roland Lajoie, U.S. Commission
Chairman, and Russian General-Major Konstantin Golumbovskiy traveled to the Kamchatka Peninsula in Russia’s Far East to investigate a crash site that was reported to the U.S. side’s Moscow office by a Russian historian from Kamchatka.

The wreckage they found was identified as that of a U.S. Navy PV1 bomber that crashed on Kamchatka in March 1944 with seven men on board. The crew members were identified, DPMO located the families to report what it learned concerning the fates of their loved ones, and a full recovery operation was conducted in 2001. All seven crew members were accounted for as a result of this mission.

Since then, DPMO has made two more expeditions to the harsh terrain and climate of the Kamchatka Peninsula. In August 2004, JCSD researchers discovered the wreckage of a World War II-era U.S. Army Air Forces B-24 bomber at Vestnik Bay. After analyzing all visible wreckage, JCSD researchers continue efforts to ascertain the identity of the crew and are seeking a return visit to the site with JPAC teams to conduct a more extensive investigation of buried and partially-buried elements that might facilitate identification.


JCSD investigators examine a fragment of a U.S. Army Air Forces B-24 bomber found at Vestnik
Bay on the Kamchatka Peninsula, August 2004.

JCSD continues its important research efforts within Russia to uncover new information that could help clarify the fates of missing Americans. In an effort to make its search more efficient and to broaden the possible sources of information available to it, DPMO will initiate research contracts with two more Russian archives that are believed to contain promising World War II records.

Additionally, the World War II Working Group continues to spearhead U.S. accounting efforts in Central Europe, where it maintains around 293 active cases of missing American servicemen in a number of nations. Two sites within the region are believed to contain the remains of missing American service members, and these have been identified for recovery operations. Two additional sites also are being evaluated for future recovery attempts. Field and analytical work in Hungary have provided valuable information on the circumstances of loss surrounding a dozen incidents encompassing over 20 unaccounted-for U.S. airmen. Additionally, JCSD research has directly accessed numerous foreign archives (Russia, Hungary, Romania, Croatia, Poland, and the Czech Republic), which has provided specific information on U.S. loss cases validated by site visits and interviews with witnesses. JCSD investigators have initiated important cooperative relations with governmental and other professional research entities in Hungary, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovenia, Croatia, and Romania in an effort to advance inquiries in those nations."

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378 posted on 05/08/2006 5:25:40 PM PDT by Romanov
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