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To: thackney
it appears to me, you are the one being purposefully obstinate.

I'm being accurate. For some reason, you insist on playing loose with the language.

Answer this: If a schoolyard bully takes the lunch money from four kids including yours every day for a month, is it financial assistance to your kid if he decides to stop taking it from yours? Is the bully subsidizing your kid's lunch by letting him keep his lunch money?

169 posted on 05/01/2006 6:41:09 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: newgeezer
Answer this: If a schoolyard bully takes the lunch money from four kids including yours every day for a month, is it financial assistance to your kid if he decides to stop taking it from yours? Is the bully subsidizing your kid's lunch by letting him keep his lunch money?

That is not a fair comparision. But if we change it to a private school that everyone pays to attend, but one kid gets in free, that is financial assistance.

171 posted on 05/01/2006 8:55:02 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: newgeezer
I'm being accurate. For some reason, you insist on playing loose with the language.

Make that me and federal government. (not that I like being lumped with the goverment)

Federal Financial Interventions and Subsidies in Energy Markets 1999: Primary Energy, Executive Summary

In May 1999, the Office of Policy, U.S. Department of Energy (DOE), asked the Energy Information Administration (EIA) to prepare an update of EIA's 1992 Service Report on Federal energy subsidies, using a more specific definition of "subsidies" provided by the Office of Policy. In its letter of request, the Office of Policy asked the EIA to examine Federal programs that provided a "specific financial benefit" covering "primary energy only."

Federal energy subsidies take three principal forms:

* Direct Payments to Producers or Consumers. These are Federal programs that directly affect the energy industry and for which the Federal Government provides a direct financial benefit. Currently, three energy programs provide direct payments to producers or consumers. Two of them focus on energy end use, and are excluded from this study. The third program is the Renewable Energy Production Incentive.

* Tax Expenditures. Tax expenditures are provisions in the tax code that reduce the tax liability of firms or individuals who take specified actions that affect energy production, consumption, or conservation in ways deemed to be in the public interest.

* Research and Development. R&D expenditures do not directly affect current energy production and prices, but if successful they could affect future production and prices. An example of the impact of Federal energy R&D is the important role that Federal R&D spending has had in the development of the U.S. commercial nuclear power industry.

184 posted on 05/01/2006 12:37:11 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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