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To: Publius Valerius
The "will of the people" [majority rule] that ignores our Constitution is called democratic tyranny.

Val:

Even assuming incorporation, there's a right to own a dildo in the constitution?

You're really that 'innocent'? Whatta laugh.

Prohibitions on 'toys' are the issue. And there's a right to own all the toys you want in the Constitution. --
It's unenumerated. -- Check out the 9th.

Well, as I noted--it should more accurately be the right to SELL these toys.

Yep, how they can be sold is subject to 'reasonable regulation'.

So the 9th Amendment means that the people can do whatever they want? The 9th Amendment protects gay marriage? It protects sodomy? It protects consentual pedophilia? It protects necophilia? It protects polygamy?

Enjoying your little bit of hype? Get real. States & local governments can write & enforce laws/regs written under constitutional due process.

If not, why not? How do you draw the line--and I'm being serious here, and I'd appreciate a serious answer: if the 9th Amendment doesn't protect those things, how does society determine which actions are protected and which aren't? How is the line drawn?

--- Reasonable men can enact reasonable regulations using due process as per our Constitution. For instance -- We have reasonable regs about nukes, and we have unreasonable, unconstitutional prohibitions about drugs, etc.
The 'line' is drawn at enacting prohibitions on items like drugs, tobacco, guns, porn, -- that have no actual intrinsic danger to people..

Until you can answer that question with a statement other than "the will of the people" (since that's what is at work here) then I don't think we can carry on any further. Any conversation on your part would be entirely irrational.

My statement on majority rule was irrational? -- Feel free to leave the discussion at any point when you feel that way, rather than trolling for effect.

126 posted on 04/23/2006 10:55:52 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
By the way, I see you entirely ignored my examples:

Again, I'll repeat them, since you were unable to address them the first time: does the 9th Amendment protect gay marriage? Sodomy? consensual pedophilia? Necrophilia? Polygamy?
127 posted on 04/23/2006 11:00:09 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: tpaine

By the way, why would a gun owner EVER move to a state that doesn't have a right to bear arms in its constitution?

That was really dumb. You should have seen this one coming, dude.


128 posted on 04/23/2006 11:00:57 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: longshadow; VadeRetro; balrog666; Senator Bedfellow; RadioAstronomer; js1138; whattajoke; Shryke; ..
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Don't ask to be added to or dropped from this list. Just don't.

129 posted on 04/23/2006 11:01:11 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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