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Bills harsh on child- sex crimes
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| 04/18/06
| Mark Ballard
Posted on 04/18/2006 3:18:29 PM PDT by Ellesu
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posted on
04/18/2006 3:18:30 PM PDT
by
Ellesu
To: LA Woman3
theres a difference between the drunken uncle who fondles the breast of his niece through her shirt and the serial pedophile who preys on children, he said.
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posted on
04/18/2006 3:19:28 PM PDT
by
Ellesu
(www.thedeadpelican.com)
To: Ellesu
There is nothing more destructive to a child's well-being than to sexualize them at too early an age. These pedophiles need to be put away for a long time. I support this.
To: Ellesu
Why give them a chance to hurt a second child, neuter them the first time. The cant castrate them all because all child molesters are not men.
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posted on
04/18/2006 3:26:45 PM PDT
by
Concho
To: Ellesu
The legislation, if passed into law, means sex offenders could not: - Attend church
BAD idea.
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posted on
04/18/2006 3:28:25 PM PDT
by
Windsong
(Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
To: Ellesu
Not.....Attend church......... I find this fundamentally wrong. I do think the pastor needs to be informed a convicted sex offender is attending the church
This whole article sort of disturbs me because they are seemingly taking a very complex issue and putting it into a very rigid system for the sake of garnering votes
Is the penalty the same for an 18 year old getting too frisky with a very mature 13 year old (unknown to him) and a 38 year old taking advantage of a 14 year old because she is looking for love in all the wrong places?
No way you can tell from this article
The first guy needs to have his ass kicked for being stupid, the second guy needs to be shot.
Pandering for votes on the back of a serious issue like child sex abuse reeks of demagoguery
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posted on
04/18/2006 3:42:04 PM PDT
by
Popman
("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
To: Ellesu
I think a harsh law like this might increase the likelihood that a molester will kill the only witness
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posted on
04/18/2006 3:53:57 PM PDT
by
muir_redwoods
(Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
To: Windsong
There is a prison ministry group who developed a protocol for bringing sex offenders into a church community. I saw it once: it included confession, monitoring, informing the church, and other things I've forgotten.
"Prisoners for Christ" or something like that.
To: Popman
Pandering for votes on the back of a serious issue like child sex abuse reeks of demagoguery You sure know how to spoil a good witch hunt!
To: IRememberElian
You sure know how to spoil a good witch hunt! Sorry about that.
It's real easy to be cynical about our politicians.
Now that child sex abuse is a "hot" topic, just where the hell were the "legislators" when sexual perverts of all types were reeking havoc on child?
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posted on
04/18/2006 4:02:38 PM PDT
by
Popman
("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
To: Ellesu
I'm so touched. Those poor little things! How could those AW-FUL legislators do this to them? The child molesters are merely expressing themselves, no need to punish them. /sarc
I am disturbed that the legislation allows for a 25 year sentence. They should be locked up for good, whether they are family or not. Why not give them the death penalty? Cause child molesters haven't seen nothing until they get in jail. The more respectable criminals (talking about an oxymoron) give them hell.
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posted on
04/18/2006 4:04:00 PM PDT
by
AntiGovernment
(A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.)
To: originalbuckeye
There is nothing more destructive to a child's well-being than to sexualize them at too early an age. This is also happening in your schools - from 5 yrs old up - in the guise of "sex education" = and the emphasis is on acceptance of homosexuality...and the curriculum largely developed BY the homosexual groups.
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posted on
04/18/2006 4:05:20 PM PDT
by
maine-iac7
("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time," Lincoln)
To: Monk Dimittis
There is a prison ministry group who developed a protocol for bringing sex offenders into a church community. I saw it once: it included confession, monitoring, informing the church, and other things I've forgotten. "Prisoners for Christ" or something like that.
Some Christians are just too forgiving. They believe that a person can change, even when he cannot. These disgusting perverts need to be locked up for good, no salvation for them. Just eternal damnation. I'll take comfort in the fact that they suffer.
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posted on
04/18/2006 4:05:43 PM PDT
by
AntiGovernment
(A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.)
To: Popman
That's my problem with these laws too.
We want to put authentic pedophiles away forever (or, as I'd prefer, put them to death). But we need to be clear on who is and isn't an offender, and the degree of their offenses.
A serial rapist of five year-olds is different than someone like, for example, Deborah Lafave. I'd like to see the former, as I've said, put to death, but I could care less about the latter (save that I wouldn't turn down an evening with her).
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posted on
04/18/2006 4:07:53 PM PDT
by
furquhart
(Time for a New Crusade - Deus lo Volt!)
To: AntiGovernment
Pedophiles ought to get the death penalty. They're fundamentally incurable and, because they're driven by some bizarre psychological deformity. I doubt if they're deterable either.
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posted on
04/18/2006 4:09:20 PM PDT
by
furquhart
(Time for a New Crusade - Deus lo Volt!)
To: Popman
It's real easy to be cynical about our politicians. There's still innocent people locked up from the daycare witch hunts and the "Satanic Ritual Abuse" witch hunts, but some yahoo screams about "the children" and the mob wants blood. It's chilling.
To: furquhart
Pedophiles ought to get the death penalty. They're fundamentally incurable and, because they're driven by some bizarre psychological deformity. I doubt if they're deterable either.
There are three different types of child molesters, as I remember. For example, some aren't pedophiles and are merely taking advantage of the child. I think harsh punishments can probably deter that group. You also have preferential pedophiles, who are very adept in luring children into their traps, and these types usually get MANY children before they are caught. (You agree with me, but some don't, the following comment is meant for them.) They need to be removed from society, because for every successful conviction, the pervert has made many other victims. I've read estimates of the number being more than a hundred per preferential pedophile, a gut-wrenching number. So many lives destroyed for the perverted wishes of one individual.
That being said, why give them the death penalty? That's the easy way out for them, after they have destroyed so many innocent young lives. Putting them in prison (and revealing to the other prisoners what they have done) ensures that they are tormented until their death, which I think is preferable in this situation and a good deterrence.
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posted on
04/18/2006 4:16:35 PM PDT
by
AntiGovernment
(A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.)
To: Concho
The problem lies with the nature of how our legal system works. If a person is judged of the wrong-doing: you perform a horrible action on them as justice, but find out that they did not do that crime? How would you repay someone who was castrated for a crime that they did not commit? Honestly I know that I would be seeking some serious revenge.
To: IRememberElian
If guilt is established beyond reasonable doubt, is there a reason not to lock up these people for the rest of their lives? I mean, we can't just let them destroy innocent lives because some innocent people got locked up. Besides, the psychological methods of suggestion that were used, are no longer used, because children are extremely susceptible to that.
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posted on
04/18/2006 4:18:51 PM PDT
by
AntiGovernment
(A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.)
To: Concho
The problem lies with the nature of how our legal system works. If a person is judged of the wrong-doing: you perform a horrible action on them as justice, but find out that they did not do that crime? How would you repay someone who was castrated for a crime that they did not commit? Honestly I know that I would be seeking some serious revenge.
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