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The challenges of manned Mars exploration
The Space Review ^
| 04/17/06
| Donald Rapp
Posted on 04/17/2006 5:59:54 PM PDT by KevinDavis
Why 2040 is the earliest NASA can hope to send humans to the Red Planet
If one examines the many specific occurrences where NASAs Exploration Systems Architecture Study (ESAS) Report mentions the word Mars, it is found that essentially all of them are very thin and lacking in content. It seems quite apparent that NASA has not yet made the effort to revisit the 1990s legacy of Mars human mission analysis to any depth at all, and seems to be content (at least for now) with handwaving, platitudes, and goal statements. The likely reason for this is that NASA has its hands full right now attempting to deal with lunar missions, and Mars missions have been pushed back beyond the back burner, to the point where they have fallen off the stove.
NASA has a very long road ahead to develop feasible, affordable approaches for human missions to Mars (if indeed such is possiblewhich seems unlikely at this juncture) and I have concluded that there is no way that NASA can send humans to Mars before 2040, and probably 2080. Nevertheless, NASA continues to express optimism about human missions to Mars, inferring that such missions will be implemented directly after human missions to the Moon, and, in fact, the ESAS Report refers to Mars and beyond several times. This disingenuous approach obscures the fact that NASA does not seem to have a plan for how to implement credible, feasible, affordable human missions to Mars.
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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mars; space
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To: KevinDavis
So no warp drive by 2063?
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posted on
04/17/2006 6:53:55 PM PDT
by
Crazieman
(6-23-2005, Establishment of the United Socialist States of America)
To: KevinDavis
Should have been at least one expedition to Mars and back by now. It could have been done by 1990.
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posted on
04/17/2006 6:55:35 PM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Off touch and out of base)
To: KevinDavis
IMHO, the space shuttle was a waste of time.
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posted on
04/17/2006 6:58:42 PM PDT
by
airborne
(Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
To: RightWhale; Brett66; xrp; gdc314; anymouse; NonZeroSum; jimkress; discostu; The_Victor; ...
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posted on
04/17/2006 7:06:23 PM PDT
by
KevinDavis
(http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
To: airborne; All
I happen to agree, but you have to understand.. NASA madate changes with each admin and who controls Congress. During the moon launches, the rats control congress. Plus the Nixon and Carter admin didn't help NASA too much either..
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posted on
04/17/2006 7:08:56 PM PDT
by
KevinDavis
(http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
To: KevinDavis
With all this nation and the world are facing right now...exactly how serious is anyone that going to Mars is even worth it?
With all due respects...millions of illegals are flooding across the border annually, GW Bush is spending like a drunken fool...and we are currently dealing with a islamo fascist nut case hell bent on acquiring nuclear arms to destroy both Israel and the West...
Mars?...you have got to be kidding?...tell me your not that delusional?
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posted on
04/17/2006 7:13:01 PM PDT
by
antaresequity
(PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH - PUSH 2 TO BE DEPORTED)
To: antaresequity
Nothing like being a Conservative on a shipwreck. It might be that a manned expedition to Mars is the only thing that can save us.
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posted on
04/17/2006 7:15:27 PM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Off touch and out of base)
To: airborne
The shuttle became a waste of time. It was worth the effort, initially. Unfortunately, NASA did not cut it's (taxpayers)
losses once the shuttle failed to deliver the cost/performance/benefit ratios.
They let it become a white elephant, draining the science and innovation out of the space program.
To: KevinDavis; All
Why in the crap? Friggin NASA bozos.
We should have a 2 million cubic ft space station in orbit about 50k miles out by now, instead of all of those dumba** shuttle missions that amounted to jackshoot.
I just want to scream.
We do NOT needto go to freakin mars!!!!!!!
AAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHH!!
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posted on
04/17/2006 7:40:42 PM PDT
by
jbp1
(be nice now)
To: jbp1; All
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posted on
04/17/2006 7:47:32 PM PDT
by
KevinDavis
(http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
To: RightWhale
I too would have thought we'd have been there by now.
To: RightWhale
Wernher Von Braun and NASA's original plan was to land a man on Mars in 1980! And have a manned mission to Jupiter in, you guessed it 2001.
To: jbp1
Flush out yer head gear there new guy. What would you build that 2 million cubic foot space station out of?
"Many years ago the great British explorer George
Mallory, who was to die on Mount Everest, was asked
why did he want to climb it. He said, "Because it
is there." Well, space is there, and we're going
to climb it, and the moon and the planets are
there, and new hopes for knowledge and peace are
there. And, therefore, as we set sail we ask
God's blessing on the most hazardous and
dangerous and greatest adventure on which man has
ever embarked."
-- John F Kennedy, Rice University, September 12th, 1962.\
Entire Speech:
http://www1.jsc.nasa.gov/er/seh/jfkru56k.asf Link:
http://www1.jsc.nasa.gov/er/seh/jfkru56k.asf
To: KevinDavis
I understand. I'm just very disappointed.
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posted on
04/18/2006 3:31:54 AM PDT
by
airborne
(Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
To: jbp1
We do NOT needto go to freakin mars!!!!!!! "To boldly go where no man has gone before!"
In orbit??
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posted on
04/18/2006 3:36:24 AM PDT
by
airborne
(Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
To: KevinDavis
I'm not sure why people want to send biological humans into space at all...(besides tourism).
Within a few decades robots will be able to do everything humans can do and more. And we can design them to withstand the problems in space, like the radiation. Much of the weight in a manned mission even short distances, is to sustain the biological humans.
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posted on
04/18/2006 3:40:50 AM PDT
by
ran15
To: Crazieman
So no warp drive by 2063?It depends on how well private enterprise does.
To: jbp1
2 million cubic ft space station in orbit about 50k miles out What for? That is, would there be a purpose?
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posted on
04/18/2006 9:41:21 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Off touch and out of base)
To: ran15
[ Within a few decades robots will be able to do everything humans can do and more. ]
Can robots be stupid?...
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posted on
04/18/2006 9:53:58 AM PDT
by
hosepipe
(CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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