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To: Bigun
I fail to see the difference. He has the money, now what? will he access the trade underground? Get exclusively used goods, like food and fuel, legal advice?

The difference is more subtle. If his taxes come off the income end, and the abuse of the tax gets to the confiscatory point, he can keep his money and fight. With an employee, it's more complicated, but he can.

If the tax is on the consumption end, to fight back, he must not eat, travel, keep a roof over his head, keep warm and acquire property. And this is what he must do no matter how hard he wants to fight.

His options are limited.

133 posted on 04/15/2006 5:19:32 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
William I must tell you that the convoluted logic of that post is beyond anything I have before encountered!

There are NO limits on the income tax William. It is, in it's effect, an assault on the most fundamental of rights, that of private property! HOW can anyone fight when he has NO resources with which TO fight. A consumption tax would leave him at least some option, SOME resources with which to fight!

137 posted on 04/15/2006 5:40:31 PM PDT by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: William Terrell

Not true, Willie Tee. Under the FairTax there are far more options available to the taxpayer than at present where his only option is to break the law.

With the FairTax he can alter his consumption and spread it out obver a longer time perios plus even purchase some mix of untaxed things. He can do none of that now. None - his income is confiscated up front and he can do nothing about it legally that is meaningful - and even then he is considered guilty in the eyes of the law until he proves his innocence.

You seem as though you've had no noticeable encounters with the IRS. There are many on these threads who have.


138 posted on 04/15/2006 5:42:14 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: William Terrell
I fail to see the difference. He has the money, now what? will he access the trade underground? Get exclusively used goods, like food and fuel, legal advice?

How much more of a ridiculous statement can you make? How do you obtain used food? Do you purchase someone's regurgitated food? Do you purchase used fuel by buying the fumes? Do you buy used legal advice by purchasing it from an attorney's client?

The difference is more subtle.

There is nothing subtle about the Fair Tax. It is transparent because the tax will be itemized on the bill for everyone to see.

If the tax is on the consumption end, to fight back, he must not eat, travel, keep a roof over his head, keep warm and acquire property.

I stand corrected. This is as ridiculous as your previous statement. You actually believe no one will be able to eat with the Fair Tax is beyond irrational. Food clothing and shelter are considered necessities under the Fair Tax and therefore will be reimbursed for the taxes paid on the both by the prebate up to the poverty level. Fair Tax FAQ #3

Your incredibly irrational statements clearly reveal you have not bothered to read any of the Fair Tax bill or visit the AFFT website. Read them before you make anymore statements. http://http://www.fairtax.org

191 posted on 04/15/2006 8:20:41 PM PDT by Man50D
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