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To: andysandmikesmom
Maybe you should read this Then run to Church. :) <~the second part was a joke
122 posted on 04/14/2006 12:28:49 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon

I have save the article and will read it at a later time...glad to see that you make the remark that the second part was a joke....but in all seriousness, there are too many that would make that remark, and mean it, not as a joke, but as a threat....

As someone else said on either this thread or another thread, that comes straight from the 'Al Capone school of witnessing'...

Glad to see you have a sese of humor, as a sense of humor would surely help all of us in these discussions...


132 posted on 04/14/2006 12:40:28 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: Echo Talon; andysandmikesmom
Maybe you should read this

And you should try this:

"Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other elements of this world, about the motion and orbit of the stars and even their size and relative positions, about the predictable eclipses of the sun and moon, the cycles of the years and the seasons, about the kinds of animals, shrubs, stones, and so forth, and this knowledge he hold to as being certain from reason and experience. Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn. The shame is not so much that an ignorant individual is derided, but that people outside the household of faith think our sacred writers held such opinions, and, to the great loss of those for whose salvation we toil, the writers of our Scripture are criticized and rejected as unlearned men. If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods and on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of Holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books. For then, to defend their utterly foolish and obviously untrue statements, they will try to call upon Holy Scripture for proof and even recite from memory many passages which they think support their position, although they understand neither what they say nor the things about which they make assertion. [1 Timothy 1.7]"

I suspect that most Christians will prefer the words and opinions of one the Fathers of the Church, St Augustine about the conflict between reason and religion over those of the Answers in Genesis ministry, with all the feeble nonsense that liberally spatters its website, aimed almost entirely at those whose understanding of science never reached the 6th Grade.

134 posted on 04/14/2006 12:41:32 PM PDT by Thatcherite (Miraculous explanations are just spasmodic omphalism)
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