Royal Society statement on evolution, creationism and intelligent design

The Royal Society ^ | 11 Apr 2006 | Staff (press release)

[andysandmikesmom]

Oh, perhaps I did not take his prophecy about me in the right spirit...I would love a vacation in Italy, especially Sicily, where my husbands family is from...

But no, this poster thought a return to 'Mother Europe', was indeed, a horrible, horrible thing...

[Echo Talon]

For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority.
Colossians 2:9-10

[Thatcherite]

Retreat to Scripture quote as a substitute for argument placemarker.

Really, really, signing out for tonight now placemarker.

[andysandmikesmom]

How old is the earth?...most people who actually study these things, estimate about 4.5 billion years old...

Oh, ok, I know you will disagree...go ahead then...

[Dimensio]

No, the same

My apologies. It appeared to me that you were suggesting that St. Augustine's statements should not be considered authoritative because he was merely a "man", yet should the same standard be applied to you it would mean that your words are also without authority. I was therefore assuming that you meant that you were more than a man. Clearly, however, you simply do not believe that anything that you say has any weight. I apologize for the confusion.

[Echo Talon]

Yoda: Worship man, you must not... :)

[Fester Chugabrew]

Gee. How can I weather such a stinging rebuke from one who in this case rejects the authority of St. Augustine even when properly translated and understood?

[Junior]

No. Religion is an assumption (the assumption that there's a God running the show). Science is at least verifiable. Any assumptions are going to be smoothed over. Any individual piece of evidence might be interpreted any number of ways; the totality of the evidence, though, will yield very limited explanations.

[andysandmikesmom]

Have a nice rest..your help on these threads is appreciated by me, and I am sure, by many of the lurkers...

[Fester Chugabrew]

But . . . but . . . but . . . that's just your opinion.

[Right Wing Professor]

How can I weather such a stinging rebuke from one who in this case rejects the authority of St. Augustine even when properly translated and understood?

I wouldn't worry about weathering it. Just be happy you understood it.

[Dimensio]

Are you suggesting that your inaccurate translation of a quote from St. Augustine is a valid argument?

[Echo Talon]

When called on his accuracy of these prophecies, he quickly did try to retreat, and actually stated that he regreted saying such a thing, but keep in mind, he insisted it was true...

Would have been a real treat to actually meet a prophet, on the Internet no less. :)

[Echo Talon]

I have never been taught ID(I don't know that they teach), I believe in the Bible.

[andysandmikesmom]

And a prophet, who said he was 'always' correct in his predictions...I suppose he kept himself happy, thinking that I was worried about some sort of return to 'Mother Europe'(still cannot figure out what he meant by that)..

Internet prophets...whats next, I wonder...

[Echo Talon]

Retreat to Scripture quote as a substitute for argument placemarker.

Because the scripture blew your St. argument out of the water?
Or was it the Yoda that did it? :)

[Kenny Bunk]

"Creationism is a belief that may be taught as part of religious education in schools, colleges and universities. Creationism may also be taught in some science classes to demonstrate the difference between theories, such as evolution, that are based on scientific evidence, and beliefs, such as creationism, that are based on faith."

Splendid. Now pass the sherry and shut up about this. Science boffins keep on workin'', Holy Rollers keep on rollin', and for God's sake have a drink together once in a while to compare notes.

[Echo Talon]

How old is the earth?...most people who actually study these things, estimate about 4.5 billion years old...

How do you square that with Genesis?

[Fester Chugabrew]

It wasn't my translation. My argument is that Augustine, like anyone else who makes public pronouncements, is not to be held in the same regard as biblical texts. If one cares to set forth Augustine as an authority on a given subject, most likely he will have to pick and choose. Obviously the text I chose, whether translated properly or not, is one from which the typical evolutionist would flee. Or do you consider his words regarding "a pact of friendship with demons" to reflect objective reality?

[Echo Talon]

He was a man and I don't put my faith in man, you're better served putting it in the Lord.