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24 arrested at BYU: Advocacy group stages 'die-in' on campus property
The Deseret News ^ | 4/12/2006 | Tad Walch

Posted on 04/12/2006 8:21:42 PM PDT by Utah Girl

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1 posted on 04/12/2006 8:21:44 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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At Brigham Young University, the LDS Church-owned school's code of conduct directly addresses sexual orientation:

"Brigham Young University will respond to student behavior rather than to feelings or orientation. Students can be enrolled at the University and remain in good Honor Code standing if they maintain a current ecclesiastical endorsement and conduct their lives in a manner consistent with gospel principles and the Honor Code. Advocacy of a homosexual lifestyle (whether implied or explicit) or any behaviors that indicate homosexual conduct, including those not sexual in nature, are inappropriate and violate the Honor Code."


2 posted on 04/12/2006 8:22:11 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl

"A gay BYU student who didn't participate in the march said he is going to leave the school because he constantly worries he will be disciplined under the Honor Code."




Then he should leave. He would be welcomed at many universities.

I never could understand people that want a religion to change to accomodate them.


3 posted on 04/12/2006 8:26:44 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Utah Girl

When do these kids study? When I was in college that is all I had time for.


4 posted on 04/12/2006 8:26:49 PM PDT by CindyDawg ( Wash your hands. It's cheap, effective and the best way to fight germs.)
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"People are dying, and we can't ignore that any longer," said Haven Herrin, a Soulforce organizer.

Well, I can.

5 posted on 04/12/2006 8:26:49 PM PDT by CAWats (And I will make no distinction between terrorists and the democrats.)
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To: Utah Girl
A "die-in",eh? And exactly why are homosexuals in this country dying in their 20's,30's and 40's? Heart disease? Car accidents?
6 posted on 04/12/2006 8:28:35 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: CindyDawg

I know. I worked full time when I attended BYU.


7 posted on 04/12/2006 8:29:06 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Gay State Conservative

Exactly. A childhood friend of mine died from AIDS. He came home from his LDS mission honorably, and then later confessed to a homosexual lifestyle and moved to San Francisco. He died an early and ugly death.


8 posted on 04/12/2006 8:30:38 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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The protestors are standing right outside the entrance to BYU. Under the big Brigham Young University sign, it says "Enter to learn, go forth to serve." Interesting...
9 posted on 04/12/2006 8:32:39 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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They couldn't reconcile their LDS faith and their sexual identity. We hope for a safer future."

That's an easy one.They can convert to Unitarian/Universalism.Then they can "express their sexual identity" during whatever pseuo-religious ceremonies they conduct in their "churches".

10 posted on 04/12/2006 8:34:21 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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I go to BYU, and this whole event was a waste of time. SoulForce is against religious discrimination, so they came to protest. BYU set rules, it is private property, and when the "equality riders" broke the rules, they were cited, and escorted off campus. Overall I think BYU handled it professionally.


11 posted on 04/12/2006 8:34:58 PM PDT by RussellStevens
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"I'm proud to say that I'm gay," Kulisch said.

A much better description of his disposition is "sexually disoriented".

A gay BYU student who didn't participate in the march said he is going to leave the school because he constantly worries he will be disciplined under the Honor Code.

Maybe he can transfer his credits to the American University in Cairo, or some other university in a Muslim country. Then he can worry less about the "honor code" and more about "honor killing".

12 posted on 04/12/2006 8:35:33 PM PDT by zipper
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Sometimes one must dismiss argumentation altogether and state that these protestors are not simply wrong (which they are) - but one glaring fact is more important than all other aspects of the issue.

That fact is: GET A LIFE!!!!!

Don't get me wrong, I waste plenty of time on stupid crap and things that I shouldn't. But seriously, these utter losers.... these incomparable freaks wasting their lives on invented problems, non-issues, and sheer stupidity such as this.

*LOSERS!!!*

13 posted on 04/12/2006 8:35:39 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Utah Girl
in a march and demonstration by a national gay-awareness group

Trust me - we are perfectly aware of you. On another note, did they have mock anal sex to precede the die-in?

14 posted on 04/12/2006 8:35:54 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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"We offer the lilies to the university in honor of those who have killed themselves. They couldn't reconcile their LDS faith and their sexual identity. We hope for a safer future."

It seems to me that if one's faith forbids something, and one want to do that thing, suicide isn't the answer. How about not doing that forbidden thing? Or, alternatively, in this situation, becoming an Episcopalian?

15 posted on 04/12/2006 8:35:55 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Utah Girl

Some years ago I worked with a guy who was both gay and LDS. I recall asking how that was working out for him. He had a really interesting perspective...yes he was gay, but the LDS church didn't recognize homosexuality, and since you weren't allowed to have sex outside of marriage...he just happened to be a very celibate gay person, as his friends were very celibate straight people. When I knew him some twenty years ago...he just planned to stay unmarried.


16 posted on 04/12/2006 8:36:36 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Utah Girl

Too bad they also didn't arrest the so called "activist" at UC Santa Cruz.


17 posted on 04/12/2006 8:37:49 PM PDT by Wheee The People
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To: Utah Girl
"I'm also proud to say, without a shadow of a doubt, that God loves me."

"But by my actions," the remnants of his conscience managed to say, "I scream at God that I do not love Him!"

Then the turd burglar returned to his chosen "lifestyle" that should see him taking a dirt bath before he hits 40.

18 posted on 04/12/2006 8:38:29 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: Utah Girl

Make sure none of them paint "Bend over to learn" on the sign!


19 posted on 04/12/2006 8:40:01 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: Gay State Conservative
From the Salt Lake Tribune:
Gay BYU student Emil Pohlig was happy to see the protest and said he is planning to transfer from the school this year.

"I would rather go to a school where I can express myself," Pohlig said. "I'm skeptical whether [Soulforce's protest] will produce any kind of action."

Apparently, Pohlig is a senior at BYU. And it's wishful thinking that things are going to change. President Hinckley has counseled us to be kind and Christian towards everyone because we are all sons and daughters of our Heavenly Father. However, sin will not be tolerated. I just don't get why gays think they have a license to 'express their sexual behavior' without any consequences, both physical and spiritual. Single straight members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints live the law of chastity.

And Matt Kulisch is misguided/misled.

"I'm proud to say that I'm gay," Kulisch said prior to entering campus and dropping to the ground, as if dying. "I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that God loves me as I am."
The leaders of the LDS church affirm this regularly, love the sinner hate the sin.
20 posted on 04/12/2006 8:40:15 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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