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To: nw_arizona_granny

"I am always amazed at how small the world is, the Canada groups are showing links to so many countries."

Exactly.

This relates to the reason I no longer post on TM. It is not moderated (Ian has a full-time job and is doing a huge favor just to keep putting new ones up)and some of the more active posters (not the past few weeks but for a long time before that) go onto illegal immigration rants. No one pulls those posts, and I get tired of looking at them. So I now scan the thread from the bottom up so I can skip certain names because I know what they'll be posting (illegal immigration, not security-related issues).

The most indisputable reason why those posts do not belong on TM is that "security" is the fig leaf that is used to legitimize the issue as being threat-related. If it truly were a border security issue, then I'd expect at least as many posts on the threat coming from the Canadian border - - it is longer, more permeable, and more networked with global commerce, travel, and migration. Canada has far more jihadis than Mexico and has diverse communities of immigrants where jihadis lurk. Canada is a far greater threat than Mexico. Yet I doubt of the hundreds of thousands of posts there are more than a dozen or so on the dangers of the exposed Canadian border. But there are thousands of posts on the Mexican border. It is complete nonsense, and life is too short.

The southern border security issue is indeed a grave concern. But the northern border is a far graver threat than the Mexican border, as are the air and sea ports (for instance, even small nukes are very heavy . . . if you want to get one here you are going to have to slip it in large amounts of unchecked cargo, not backpack it across hundreds of miles of open desert where you'd need to shield an already heavy device with even more heavy lead)

You are right that Canada is incredibly connected to the world. But it also shows why those who devote 90+% of their time to ranting about Mexico might help us all if they spent part of that energy holding Congress' feet to the fire on securing the seaports, air cargo, coastal defenses (stand-off attacks from barges offshore) and the northern border.

All of these are far more dangerous threats than the Mexican border (and should be discussed far more on a threat called "threat matrix"). We are busy rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic because we have lost our collective minds in placing one issue above all others and at their expense when it is not the gravest threat - - not even close.

Border security means 360 degrees and 3 dimensional defense of our periphery (air, land and sea in all directions). Not this unhealthy obsession with only one dimension of the threat that is the predominant opinion of most of those who are inclined to post on FR.

The threats rank:

number 1: SEA
number 2: air
number 3: land

And then even once you get to land, if you have to pick which border you secure first - - it is the northern border hands down. The Mexican border is at the top of the list today. It shows how backward and irrational our political debates have become.

/end rant


154 posted on 06/09/2006 3:44:25 PM PDT by callmejoe
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To: callmejoe

Border security means 360 degrees and 3 dimensional defense of our periphery (air, land and sea in all directions). Not this unhealthy obsession with only one dimension of the threat that is the predominant opinion of most of those who are inclined to post on FR.

The threats rank:

number 1: SEA
number 2: air
number 3: land




I would only add to the above that incidents any place in the world, need to be in one's memory bank.

You are correct, we are not looking at the many points we need to be.

Have you checked out our World Terrorism Thread?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1607641/posts?q=1&&page=4401

Don't let the name throw you, Davey makes our threads and she wanted the world to know it was more than a one trick thread.

I try to post any terror threat that I find, from the world, and at times history or even nonsense, if I can find a light moment in all the ugliness.

We would be honored, to have you post with us.

Davey's only rule is no non-related photos, as some of us are still on dial up internet.

She does what she can, but she still has a full life and I have the time, so try to post an assortment.

There were several threats, a couple years ago, the childest type drawings on the Great Lakes / Ships and the tunnels.

I found and posted a series of tunnels that dated back centuries, forget the details now, but can still see the giant world underground from the photos.

They reminded me of the tunnels for Iran and N. Korea.

I post until I can't see or remember what I have read, so it is time for someone else to join us and cover some of the area's that we are missing.

I do hope you will join us.

We will need to start a new thread soon, but will link it and we did this thread to our first thread. I have not checked the readers counts for this week, but we do have readers, but for some reason, they do not post. I wish they would post.

Thank you for your answer.


155 posted on 06/10/2006 2:49:22 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (Not truth, but faith, it is what keeps the world alive............Edna St Vincent)
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