[Conservative Texan Mom]

I have had it brought up in posts to me on at least 4 occasions as a legitimate concern. I certainly don't recommend that we stop research. That's quite preposterous! While I will not say that nobody suggests that. There does seem to be a lack of understanding of people of faith, and our view of science, at least by some.


(I am asking you to defend your philosophical belief that life could not have been designed

Another strawman. Please debate honestly, please)




This strawman thing seems to be quite convenient to throw out there when there is something you prefer not to answer. Please, if I have misconstrued your statements regarding your opinion of religious belief, and the intellect of those have have such, then correct me. If I have wrongly deduced from your statements that your belief is, life could not have been designed, then say so that I may stand corrected.


(Please debate honestly, please)

It would not occur to me to do otherwise. Quite interesting that you should think this. It is dishonest to proclaim ID as a science when it does not meet the criteria. It is also dishonest to hide behind science like it's a security blanket and ridicule a belief that is different than your own. If a person disputes science, argue it scientifically. If someone disputes the belief that life is a product of design, which at it's origin is as likely as it is not likely, then argue it philosophically. But, once again, if this is not your belief, then I recant.

[Coyoteman]

It is also dishonest to hide behind science like it's a security blanket and ridicule a belief that is different than your own. If a person disputes science, argue it scientifically. If someone disputes the belief that life is a product of design, which at it's origin is as likely as it is not likely, then argue it philosophically.

If a person disputes science, he/she should bring scientific evidence, not philosphical/religious belief to the discussion.

What are the facts? Again and again and again - what are the facts? Shun wishful thinking, ignore divine revelation, forget what 'the stars foretell,' avoid opinion, care not what the neighbors think, never mind the unguessable 'verdict of history' - what are the facts, and to how many decimal places? You pilot always into an unknown future; facts are your only clue. Get the facts!

Robert A. Heinlein, Time Enough for Love, 1973

[orionblamblam]

> This strawman thing seems to be quite convenient to throw out there when there is something you prefer not to answer.

Yes, because you're debating dishonestly. I have little interest in actually debatign those who use such blatant falsehoods.

>>(Please debate honestly, please)

>It would not occur to me to do otherwise.

Obviously, it has, since you've gone to the bother of inventing positions for your "opponant," positions he doesn't hold.

[stands2reason]

If I have wrongly deduced from your statements that your belief is, life could not have been designed, then say so that I may stand corrected.

There is no way to prove life could not have been designed. That's why ID is not science.