Posted on 04/09/2006 5:16:52 PM PDT by wagglebee
Okay, here's what they may have been doing together locked in the bathroom (besides drugs): They decided they were going to bolt the party. They then were on Mangum's cellphone trying to call her boyfriend. When Mangum couldn't reach him after calling several numbers, she made Kim promise to drive her somewhere until she could call him to come meet them and get her. They then emerged from the bathroom and bolted the party.
Based on what the defense is saying in the recent stories about the photos, it now seems that it may have been much shorter than 30 minutes between the time Mangum leaves the car to get her shoes, bangs on the door, passes out in the yard, and a lacrosse guy goes out and helps her back to the car. Could have been only 10-15 minutes.
Peace to you also.
Can someone link the article that says Kim has gone underground?
I tried to find this earlier but I couldn't find that statement in the article someone had cited (I think it was the Newsweek article).
I told you before I was surprised that this story was kept quiet for so long.
It happened on the 14th, and the first threads on this story are on FR about the 26th -- it may have been th 24th, but still! I remember that as soon as I heard it as breaking news on the local station somebody had already put up a thread by the time I got here within minutes.
And the other thing I remember is that by that time, those people had already printed up those huge fliers with ALL the pictures of them team on them and were hanging them all over Durham.
It most certainly WAS a rush to judgement and they never looked back.
I was also thinking she probably drove, because her car was probably where she left her coat (she must have had something on over the see-through negligee when she arrived, and it was not in the house nor in Kim's car), but perhaps not. She may have been too drunk to drive. Her boyfriend may have dropped her off, and she was so drunk she left her coat in his car.
Would that arrest record have turned up any recent license suspensions? If she had had her license suspended and wasn't supposed to be driving, and knew she would be deaing with the police, perhaps she dropped the car off for that reason.
She didn't have a license.
I have a kid who play lacrosse and loves it. That's why I've taken more of an interest in the story and proves a diversion from the insanity of the demonstrations favoring illegal aliens.
Someone posted another article with some more detail on the defense timeline
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1607267/posts?page=874#874
States the last photo was at 12:41.
A photo (must be the last photo at 12:41) shows a lacrosse guy helping Mangum into Kim's car.
At some point...drugs are going to come out somewhere in this story...I'm just waiting for someone to admit that they sold drugs to this gal....and you start to see an entire new angle to this story.
If I'm Nifong I'm going to start putting out feelers to the various firms to figure out which one I'm going to join in private practice come November.
Kim going missing has been mentioned on at least one of the cable news shows.
If she's really gone missing then she is probably very afraid (although I wonder how solid the cablenews source on this is).
She probably fears either for her physical safety or that she risks going to jail. If she fears for her safety, perhaps Mangum's boyfriend and/or pimp has threatened her with death or injury unless she supports Mangum's story.
If she fears jail, then perhaps she's afraid that sworn statements she made to police supporting Mangum's allegations are false, and she could be sent down for perjury.
I very much doubt she is all that afraid of the Duke students or their parents, to the point where she would go in hiding. She probably doesn't have much in the way of assets anyway and is essentially "judgment-proof."
Exactly!
But by the time it did come out, we had names and everything! Simply amazing.
I hope it wasn't Kim on Fox! She doesn't have a grasp of ANY facts in this case!
Listening to Kim's voice on the 911 call, she doesn't sound like she is from around there. It's possible that she left because she doesn't want her real identity to be revealed. Keep in mind that she is an escort, an illegal profession: she may have open warrants out on her or her family may not know what she does for a living.
Soooooo glad to see you back!
Last Updated: 04-10-06 at 9:44AM
Elton Brand says he never felt racism at Duke. Neither did fellow black players Carlos Boozer or Daniel Ewing. And it wasn't just because they were stars on the wildly popular and successful basketball team.
"There are a lot of multicultural people at Duke, and everybody felt that way, not just the athletes," Brand said.
Allegations that three white members of the lacrosse team raped and racially insulted a black stripper hired to dance at a March 13 party have stunned the campus and the Durham community, sparking days of protests and rallies. Last week, Duke canceled the remainder of the lacrosse season and accepted the resignation of the team's coach.
The move came hours after the release of an e-mail sent by a team member that President Richard H. Brodhead called "sickening and repulsive." That night, Brodhead initiated a series of internal investigations into Duke's response to the allegations and into whether the school has fostered a culture of intolerance and elitism.
"My fiancee, Shahara, also went to Duke and she had friends there of all different races," said Brand, who now plays professionally for the Los Angeles Clippers. "She loved it there, too, and she didn't have a problem with racism, so this seems out of character."
More details of what happened might emerge soon. The results of DNA tests of 46 of the lacrosse team's 47 players _ since the alleged victim said her attackers were white, the team's lone black member was not tested _ could be completed any day. Prosecutors have yet to charge anyone in the case, but have said charges could be filed as early as this week.
"I've seen a couple things on TV about it," said Boozer, who now plays for the Utah Jazz. "When I was there, and it wasn't too long ago, the white students got along with us great. Everybody took care of each other on campus."
Among the issues the Brodhead's investigative panels will examine is the alleged use of racist language by members of the lacrosse team. Durham's population is equally divided between blacks and whites, but only 11 percent of Duke's 6,200 undergraduates are black _ although that figure has about doubled in the past two decades.
"From my experience, no, I didn't experience any racism," said Ewing, a rookie with the Clippers. "Everything was pretty good for me at Duke."
Monique Currie, who also is black and a star for coach Gail Goestenkors' women's basketball team, returned to Duke for a fifth season, leading the Blue Devils to the NCAA title game. Even an overtime loss to Maryland couldn't spoil Currie's memories of her years at Duke.
"The reporters asked me after the game, do I regret coming back, because we didn't win a national championship," she told a crowd of about 350 people at rally for the team. "I wouldn't rather be in another place, and I'm just still extremely happy I was able to come back and spend another year with all of you great people and all of my teammates.
"I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world."
Shavlik Randolph, a former player for the Blue Devils who is white, said he didn't really know any of the lacrosse players when he was in school. A native of Raleigh, N.C., about 30 miles from the Duke campus, he now plays for the Philadelphia 76ers and has kept in touch with friends still on campus.
Randolph was as surprised as anyone by the allegations.
"Every team has their wild guys who get rambunctious and crazy," he said. "I would have never expected anything like this to emerge. I think people are still trying to figure out exactly what happened."
It's certainly the talk of the lacrosse world. Larry Feldman, who played at Penn from 1960-64, is president of LaxPower.com, a Web site devoted to the sport, from the high school level to college.
A message forum on his site has gotten more than 1,000 posts on the situation at Duke, and they've been viewed by more than 20,000 people.
"The sport never gets much publicity, and now the sport is getting more publicity than it's gotten in 25 years," Feldman said. "And it's not going to help the sport."
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AP Sports Writers Jon Krawczynski in Minneapolis and Dan Gelston in Philadelphia contributed to this report, as did AP freelance writer Joe Resnick in Los Angeles.
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