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To: cogitator

"A single drop of water falling from the faucet of a bathtub once every ten seconds would eventually fill the bathtub (provided the bathtub doesn't leak), right?

So would you be surprised that slow incremental changes to one of the factors influencing Earth's climate would eventually have a noticeable effect?"

Yes, I would be extremely surprised if that were the case because there a more dynamic influences interacting in the atmosphere than we can model with even our most powerful and sophisticated computers and programs.

On the other hand, we can easily predict the rate of water input and evaporation interacting on said bathtub and drops of water to conclude with extreme accuracy when and if the bathtub will fill using only a pencil and piece of paper.

That's one of the most idiotic analogies I've ever heard. I say one of the most idiotic because it's typical of the feeble minded BS that comes from most global warmers.


33 posted on 04/08/2006 6:20:16 PM PDT by rickylc
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To: rickylc
Yes, I would be extremely surprised if that were the case because there a more dynamic influences interacting in the atmosphere than we can model with even our most powerful and sophisticated computers and programs.

What you are essentially arguing is that there are sufficient push-"backs" in the system to counter a slow, steady push-forward in a single direction. It's fine to think or hope that, but it's not scientifically defined as likely. The models can and do cover the systems that are involved. That does not deny there are uncertainties; the predictions come with associate uncertainties.

That's one of the most idiotic analogies I've ever heard. I say one of the most idiotic because it's typical of the feeble minded BS that comes from most global warmers.

It was not so much an analogy as an illustration. If you want an analogy; take a bathtub and fill it nearly to the brim with water. Turn on the faucet, and open the drain. Provide you have enough incoming water flow, balance the incoming flow with the drainage so that the water level is stable. Clearly there will be turbulent circulation in the tub, temperature variability, etc.

Now start adding a teaspoonful of water from the sink next to the tub once a minute. What will happen to the level of water in the tub?

The point of the analogy is to show that a small steady change in one direction will influence other variables in a system in one direction.

41 posted on 04/10/2006 11:02:46 AM PDT by cogitator
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