[Moose4]

Well...a lot of us here have been screaming to the skies for weeks and weeks now about what'll happen if Congress sells us out on immigration issues. It looks like it's going to happen, so we have some hard decisions to make coming into November. Do we risk handing seats to Democrats to teach our Republican representatives a lesson not to ignore the will of the people on immigration?

I've got a lot of thinking to do between now and Election Day.

}:-)4

[dirtboy]

I've got a lot of thinking to do between now and Election Day.

I look at two past events as a reference point.

The GOP losses in 1992 led to the Contract With America and GOP wins in 1994.

And Trent Lott did not get broad support from the base to hold onto his Senate Majority Leader seat during the Strom Thurmond dustup because he didn't give them good reason to want to back him.

So IMO the lessons are, a party that thinks it can ignore the base does so at its own peril, but some good tends to come from that, as they stop being so arrogant with their power and return to their core values. And if Bush wants the rank-and-file to rise up and help protect him from impeachment, undercutting them on immigration is not the way to keep them motivated in that regard. He is demotivating the base in a manner worthy of its own Despair.com poster.

[JamesP81]

Do we risk handing seats to Democrats to teach our Republican representatives a lesson not to ignore the will of the people on immigration?

Yes. We still have Bush as president, and the presidential election is 2 years after the November election. Right now control of congress is somewhat expendable. In normal circumstances, it wouldn't be, but these circumstances are hardly normal. Make them feel pain this november. Then, in nov 08, they will have hopefully let the lesson sink in, and we can get some real republicans running for congress and get Mike Pence running for president.

[CORedneck]

Time to give third parties a chance such as Libertarian. Democrats should throw their votes to parties like the Green. In my opinion, it seems the two party system we have only encourages us to vote for the lesser of two evils.

Well...a lot of us here have been screaming to the skies for weeks and weeks now about what'll happen if Congress sells us out on immigration issues. It looks like it's going to happen, so we have some hard decisions to make coming into November. Do we risk handing seats to Democrats to teach our Republican representatives a lesson not to ignore the will of the people on immigration?

I've got a lot of thinking to do between now and Election Day.

}:-)4