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To: sinkspur
We are already paying for them!

What does it take for this elementary concept to penetrate that thick skull of yours, which seems to be impenetrable to even the most rudimentary of facts and/or logic?

In the form of public education, home loans, Pell Grants, AFDC, Medicaid, SSI, WIC, food stamps, the billions in untaxed remittances that they are diverting from our economy, etc., etc., ad nauseam.

Stop with this "Americans are too damn lazy to do anything" pap.

I'm tired of it!

Americans are sick of being condescended to by nitwits like you and Clarence, and your political icons, John McLame and Lyndsay "Goober" Graham.

They know the truth, and no amount of spin from you apologists for criminality is going to change that one iota.

1,200 posted on 04/06/2006 1:48:20 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
Stop with this "Americans are too damn lazy to do anything" pap.

I didn't say Americans were too lazy to do anything. I said fruit and vegetable growers have not had much luck hiring white boys like you to do stoop labor. That has been the case for well over 40 years.

I know you don't like that reality, but it IS reality.

And American shoppers don't really care where their oranges come from.

1,215 posted on 04/06/2006 1:58:06 PM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
Spoken like an American who's been lied to one too many times. I mean, urinate upon our feet and keep telling us it's raining. Sooner or later we'll figure it out if by nothing but the smell.

As for Americans being too lazy, please, I want to scream when I see or hear that.

Here's the question...ask every native born working American you know...Would you pick lettuce all day for a nickel a head?

Then, if they say no, ask...Would you pick lettuce all day for $50.00 a head?

So....it's more about price than actual refusal to do the work. No, Americans aren't going to work for what those illegal immigrants are paid. But it's not that Americans WON'T do it (okay, some won't but I'm talking the American people that actually WORK), it's that Americans won't do it for the money offered.

I would point out their own President keeps saying that nonsense over and over...."work Americans won't do". Well that only tells part of the story don't it?

Because when Bush keeps saying this, he's giving the world the impression that Americans are lazy and imperialistic when go to hell we are the hardest working country on the planet. And two, he leaves out that part about the money. I'd argue this is to keep avoiding any mention of the businesses that employ these people at below living wages.

In short, it's not US ordinary working peons causing the problem. It's the politicians who do nothing about it and their big contributing businesses who keep those same politicians in power.

The middle class, we who carry this country on our collective backs, has nothing whatsoever to do with this immigration problem. We work, support our families, obey the laws and expect our government to encourage that same thing from ALL aspects of our populace.

1,250 posted on 04/06/2006 2:11:41 PM PDT by Fishtalk
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