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Congress Nears Deal on Illegal Immigrants (breaking on cable networks)
AP/Yahoo News ^ | 4-6-06 | DAVID ESPO

Posted on 04/06/2006 8:33:43 AM PDT by STARWISE

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To: sinkspur
A "balanced approach."

"Comprehensive reform."

Why don't you throw out another trite banality or utterly worthless euphemism, which masks the issues at stake?

I'm sure you have a million of them.

I could care less whether or not your approach has a chance of being enacted into law.

I repeat, no action is better than shoving this amnesty monstrosity-which over 60% of Americans vehemently oppose-down our collective throat.

Nothing would please me more than for Congress to go into recess right now, and never return.

If there was a bill in your state legislature that would let people invade your home, would you support it?

Contingent, of course, on its ability to garner enough votes...

1,481 posted on 04/06/2006 3:47:54 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: clawrence3

Thank you, aren't you sweet! ;)
susie


1,482 posted on 04/06/2006 3:48:45 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Thanks for the heads up.


1,483 posted on 04/06/2006 3:48:54 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: brytlea

You're welcome.


1,484 posted on 04/06/2006 3:49:21 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: pulaskibush
Illegals also make up over 1/4 of Federal Prisoners in the US.

Federal Prisoners? That's likely because they got caught trying to bring drugs over the border.

That statistic ought to please you.

1,485 posted on 04/06/2006 3:49:21 PM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: clawrence3
Why unemployable?

Illegal immigrants are only employable now because they are willing to work off of the books and for below market wages. They are willing to do this because they will starve otherwise.

If they become citizens then they are fully elgible for welfare and subject to other labor laws. They will also demand benefits like health insurance that they are afraid to ask for now since they are illegals.

They will become more costly to employ so businesses will be better off either employing high school dropouts or importing new illegals.

We are then left with 12 million unemployable "citizens" that will increase the welfare load and pad the number of demcoratic voters.

1,486 posted on 04/06/2006 3:49:37 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: TAdams8591
Can you imagine waking up to face that daily workload?

My brother-in-law has been going through the legal pathways to legal citizenship since 1999. He's completely aware of the long, arduous process. His greencard is good for 18 months while he waits for his legal citizenship papers to go through the government bureaucracy.

1,487 posted on 04/06/2006 3:49:38 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: inquest

See my response to JeffAtlanta.


1,488 posted on 04/06/2006 3:50:05 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3

That was incredibly fast, are you parked here???! 8-0
susie


1,489 posted on 04/06/2006 3:50:36 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: brytlea

Just multi-tasking, that's all - I never pass by a compliment ; )


1,490 posted on 04/06/2006 3:52:11 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
Let me get this straight.

We're going to "solve" the problem of the 10-20 million illegal aliens "living underground"-by the way, how precisely are they living underground-by giving the imprimatur of public acceptance-through an act of Congress-to their criminality, and encouraging 20-30 million more aliens to invade this country, in order to replace the ones that have been naturalized?

How exactly does that work?

1,491 posted on 04/06/2006 3:52:16 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: onyx

Border first. anything else next.

Good tagline :)


1,492 posted on 04/06/2006 3:52:28 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: clawrence3
prices for consumer goods increase, bottom falls out of housing market, dollar plunges, global trade war, etc.

All these things would result from construction of a barrier? You way overestimate the expense of building it.

1,493 posted on 04/06/2006 3:53:11 PM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: JeffAtlanta

That's one possible scenario, but only if the Administration fails to enforce immigration laws once the law is passed.


1,494 posted on 04/06/2006 3:53:26 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: JeffAtlanta

"Whining and taking our ball home isn't going to help anyone. All the folks who insist on no compromise may kill our chances to fix this problem."

[Amnesty will create 12 million unemployable hispanics -
how is that a solution to anything?]


Exactly. No illegal will be stupid enough to sign onto a guest worker program, because it would make them unemployable. The only thing that works at all is the fence.


1,495 posted on 04/06/2006 3:55:46 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: inquest

Well, I was responding to completely "sealing off the border" and, presumably, deporting 20 million illegal aliens - $6 billion for the actual wall will be chump change compared to a global recession - all of those are therefore possible scenarios.


1,496 posted on 04/06/2006 3:56:37 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: inquest

>A 95% effective barrier, on the other hand, is not

Oh, God, that will go nowhere with this guy.

More and more he is showing the 100% OBL that he is.

At least Dane is open about it. This guy isn't.
He is a waste of bandwidth, other than to make a point to the other posters.


1,497 posted on 04/06/2006 3:57:06 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: clawrence3

"That's one possible scenario, but only if the Administration fails to enforce immigration laws once the law is passed."

Bwahahahah. That's a joke, right?! They aren't enforcing the current laws.



1,498 posted on 04/06/2006 3:57:10 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: inquest

Yes...it takes a supermajority to go over the budget for an amendment...so I would imagine it would for a whole bill...

BUT, I am not even close to an expert..I am just reporting what I saw on c-span 2.

Perhaps you should ask someone who IS an expert...I am sure there is someone much more knowledgeable, even on this thread.


1,499 posted on 04/06/2006 3:57:40 PM PDT by Txsleuth (~~~~~~FREEPATHON TIME~~~~~~)
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To: pulaskibush
Illegals also make up over 1/4 of Federal Prisoners in the US.

Drug runners.

According to Senator Kyl, there are approximately 120-thousand in Arizona's detention facilities alone.

They can't be deported. Mexico don't want 'em.

1,500 posted on 04/06/2006 3:57:46 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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