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Mining the Moon
American Scientist ^
| Paul D. Spudis
Posted on 04/06/2006 7:51:45 AM PDT by KevinDavis
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posted on
04/06/2006 7:52:50 AM PDT
by
KevinDavis
(http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
To: KevinDavis
Thanks for posting this. That we haven't doe this or begun after almost 40 years of landing there is a bigger problem for us than illegal immigration or what have you.
We just gave up as a country a long time ago.
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posted on
04/06/2006 7:53:24 AM PDT
by
tallhappy
(Juntos Podemos!)
To: KevinDavis
I think he has the cart before the horse- FIRST we get practical fusion power using He-3, THEN we go mine it.
After we figure out HOW to mine it economically.
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posted on
04/06/2006 7:57:12 AM PDT
by
DBrow
To: tallhappy
"We just gave up as a country a long time ago."
Hopefully, that spirit will return. When I was growing up in the 1950's - 60's, I thought for sure we'd be more busy in space, especially with our moon.
I saw that show on PBS the other night about the Cassini project, which was certainly inspiring, but we need to do more.
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posted on
04/06/2006 8:00:03 AM PDT
by
George - the Other
(400,000 bodies in Saddam's Mass Graves, and counting ...)
To: KevinDavis
Schmitt then devotes two chapters to his idiosyncratic take on how NASA should be reorganized to regain the management prowess lost since the end of the Apollo program."Idiosyncratic" or not, at least he recognizes the problem, which is a start. I don't know about this whole fusion idea, whether it will happen in my lifetime or not, but I'm glad someone in the space program still has some kind of imagination.
To: tallhappy
We just gave up as a country a long time ago.
Well, maybe. It could be that sending 12 guys to the Moon was considered to be a huge crowning achievement that it would have been a tough act to follow.
It was tied up in national pride and a race with the Russians to prove who was stronger and smarter.
Once we came back from the Moon, the Russians were not too interested in going there themselves, they were running low on funds, and the Great Society was eating cash in the USA.
What would we have done next? A semipermanent Moon Base? A manned Mars mission? A big orbital station like Chesley Bonestell used to paint? All great projects, but way beyond what we did going to the Moon.
I hope someday we start to look up and out again. Mining He-3 is probably not going to do it, but maybe mining heavies from asteroids will be an incentive.
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posted on
04/06/2006 8:04:23 AM PDT
by
DBrow
To: KevinDavis
Mining the moon, asteroids, other planets, farming Mars.
I am a big believer in this future for humankind.
It is this future ahead of us that make it clear maniacs like that professor who wants 90% of humanity to die need to be locked up and the key thrown away.
The future awaits us. Jerks who want to destroy us are shallow, feeble minded, selfish, irresponsible, zits on the face of our destiny.
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posted on
04/06/2006 8:08:00 AM PDT
by
A message
To: DBrow
Space should be left to free enterprise. The X prize is the way forward. NASA are a bunch of boobs who have saddled us with a monster launch vehicle that is expensive and dangerous. The Apollo technology was way better.
To: KevinDavis
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posted on
04/06/2006 8:10:12 AM PDT
by
Vaquero
("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
To: Jack Black
agree... we mine it when it makes economically sense to mine it, not before...
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posted on
04/06/2006 8:11:46 AM PDT
by
Kurt_Hectic
(Trust only what you see, not what you hear)
To: KevinDavis
We should be coming up with plans to mine He-3 economically now, not later. If you want to do He-3 fusion research you are going to need a sufficient quantity first. It is kind of like the chicken and the egg concept, so I believe they are on the right track.
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posted on
04/06/2006 8:12:50 AM PDT
by
LuxMaker
To: KevinDavis
Curious what removing mass from the moon will do to the gravitational pull of the earth? could be a disaster in the long run.
To: KevinDavis
Shouldn't they demonstrate that the He-3 reaction will be economic BEFORE they go back to the moon?
To: Element187
I am quite confident that our scratching of the surface will have no impact.
More mass is gained and lost by solar winds and dust than we could ever dream of removing.
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posted on
04/06/2006 8:23:03 AM PDT
by
MeanWestTexan
(Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
To: Element187
eventually, if the moon gains mass from impacts, looses
speed from drag, the earth gains the moons mass that is
brought here, and the earth gains mass from impacts minus
what we loose to atmospheric drain, I guess the
gravitational attraction of the moon and earth will
change, and a new distance between the bodies will result,
but has someone ever worked out those kind of numbers, and
projected it from 4 billion years ago to 4 billion years
out? Would be an interesting simulation. I wonder at what
orbital speed the moon would need to stay in orbit, or
would it just move out farther, or would the fall vector
be greater than the straight line vector, and the moon
would fall to earth? Talk about moon over miami.
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posted on
04/06/2006 8:23:53 AM PDT
by
Getready
To: Vaquero
To: KevinDavis
What's the chance of private companies coming up with the financing and doing it?
If we wait on the government then space will never be exploited....er, explored. ;^)
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posted on
04/06/2006 8:34:55 AM PDT
by
ksen
("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
To: ksen
If there was good reason to believe He-3 from the moon would be economic, the govt. would be pouring $$$ into it - the He-3 energy production concept still appears to have many engineering hurdles - not just supply of He-3 - to overcome.
To: Fitzcarraldo
You're right - He-3 fusion needs to be proven before we start seriously thinking about how to mine He-3 on the moon.
Still, I like how this guy thinks and we SHOULD be going back - for exploration, defense and national pride just for starters.
Personally, I've always fancied running my own moon-based solar farm and using microwaves to beam power back to Earth. Everything we need to build photovoltaic cells we can find on the moon.
:)
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