[hoosierham]

Well,not quite.

It may be necessary and prudent to kill your enemires.Deriving pleasure from torturing them puts you on a lower level.WE had a dog go mad(not rabid) and kill another dog without provocation.Put it down humanely and hated it but knew it was too dangerous to let live.

It is not needed to kill all Muslims,sincere conversions would suffice as long as it is Muslims converting to a religion that respects life,free will, and reason. Any belief which fears all other ideas must be weak.

[tpaine]

"-- Fear, self-interest, honor.
Which of these guides the chariot of your nation and your allies in Europe and your surprisingly fragile civilization now, O Man of 2006?"


"Which combination of those three traits -- phobos, kerdos, doxa -- will save or doom your world?" asked the Time Traveler.

"-- you are too timid, too fearful . . . too decent . . . to match the ruthlessness of your enemies. --"


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Fear, self-interest, honor...

-- Fear will doom us.

--- Self interest will save us, but only if we honor our own Constitutional principles in fighting for our civilization.

It is honorable in war to be ruthless, -- to do onto enemies as they would do onto you.

397 tpaine


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Well,not quite.
It may be necessary and prudent to kill your enemires.
Deriving pleasure from torturing them puts you on a lower level.

It is not needed to kill all Muslims,sincere conversions would suffice as long as it is Muslims converting to a religion that respects life, free will, and reason. Any belief which fears all other ideas must be weak.

409 hoosierham


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Dream on hoosier that we can 'convert' our enemies. [It's unconstitutional in any case]
And "torture"? Who suggested that?

Nope, -- far too many of us, as Simmons says, "-- are too timid, too fearful . . . too decent . . . to match the ruthlessness of our enemies. --"