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Boy Suspended For Carrying Knife Into School (He turned it in, still getting expelled)
The Indy Channel ^ | April 3, 2006 | Ap

Posted on 04/03/2006 10:02:15 AM PDT by Abathar

INDIANAPOLIS -- A school principal in Indianapolis suspended an eighth-grader for 10 days and recommended he be expelled for carrying a pocket knife, even though the boy said he had forgotten the weapon was in his coat pocket and turned it over to school officials as soon as he entered the building.

An expulsion hearing has been scheduled for April 10.

Elliot Voge, 14, told Stoneybrook Middle School principal Jimmy Meadows he forgot that he had left the Swiss Army knife in his pocket after using it to whittle wood last month. The next day, just after he was dropped off at school by a classmate's mother, he said he discovered the knife in his coat and immediately went to the office.

Nevertheless, Meadows suspended him and recommended expulsion. The action stunned the boy's parents, who hired a lawyer to represent him at the hearing next week.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
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To: SoftballMominVA
I gave you more details. Here is more more detailed story about this case. The principals expulsion recommendation letter backs up everything that Elliot said happened. There is nothing more to the story. The principal is a total and complete buffoon.
61 posted on 04/03/2006 10:27:46 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Abathar

The Principal and school administrators need to be strung up the flagpole for this one.

SUE SUE SUE!!!!!!


62 posted on 04/03/2006 10:28:24 AM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: Always Right
Meadows noted in his summary that "throughout the entire investigation and student due-process, Elliott (sic) was a model student."

This states that during this process he was a model student. That is somewhat different from what you posted.

He even described Elliots as a "model student" in his expulsion recommendation.

It's subtle, but sometimes the details matter down the road.

63 posted on 04/03/2006 10:28:28 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: 6SJ7

I think if a few parents started showing up at Board meetings of the local school board with a long rail a bucket of tar and feathers, it might get someone's attention.

If not, then carry out the threat and see if that does.


64 posted on 04/03/2006 10:29:11 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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To: Littlejon

I carried a folding knife with a five inch blade. Wore holes in the pockets of my jeans. The high school principal once asked to see it...he gave me tips on keeping it sharp.

Folding lockblades in sheaths were commonplace. No one was ever hurt by a knife while I was in high school, and there were probably hundreds of them there, every day.


65 posted on 04/03/2006 10:30:19 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Islamic Terrorists, the Mainstream Media and the Democrat Party Have the Same Goals in Iraq.)
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To: Abathar
The next day, just after he was dropped off at school by a classmate's mother, he said he discovered the knife in his coat and immediately went to the office.

Nevertheless, Meadows suspended him and recommended expulsion

Fourteen is not to early to learn the Warden is not on your side.

66 posted on 04/03/2006 10:30:42 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Conscience: the inner voice which warns us that someone may be watching. - H L Mencken)
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To: SoftballMominVA
You are wrong.

I've carried a pocketknife ever day since I was 8 years old.

That's third grade, for those of you in Rio Linda.

Prior to the 9/11 atrocity, and subsequent TSA stupidity, I carried it on commercial aircraft.

I still have that knife, although it's worn out and long since retired.

The attitude you display is symptomatic of the wussification and infantilization of America. Yeah, let's ban everything that might possibly be perceived as 'dangerous' or 'ugly'. Let's prevent anyone from learning any sort of responsible behaviour. Let's treat everyone like a mentally retarded criminal. If they don't like it, and act up, we can always pump them full of drugs.

Expelling this kid from the control-freak environment of a modern public school is actually doing him a favour. It might give him a better chance of growing up to be a responsible, mature, intelligent man instead of the sort of effeminate moron that some people seem to insist on raising.

67 posted on 04/03/2006 10:31:29 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

We disagree. What a surprise. And still my life goes on.


68 posted on 04/03/2006 10:32:52 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: lakeman

We all had gun racks in our trucks and carried, at least, a .22 or a shotgun all the time. Right out in the open.

No one was ever shot. In fact, I don't think anyone would have been stupid enough to mess with our school.


69 posted on 04/03/2006 10:33:37 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Islamic Terrorists, the Mainstream Media and the Democrat Party Have the Same Goals in Iraq.)
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To: SoftballMominVA
It's subtle, but sometimes the details matter down the road.

Geez, you are impossible. If you can read that story with all the details from BOTH sides and still not believe the principal is a total moron, I give up.

70 posted on 04/03/2006 10:34:11 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Abathar
Here's the website for the School.

http://stonybrook.warren.k12.in.us/home/

And the contact info.

Stonybrook Middle School
Principal: Jimmy Meadows

jmeadows@warren.k12.in.us

11300 Stonybrook Drive
Indianapolis, Indiana 46229
Telephone: 532-8800
Fax: 532-8899
71 posted on 04/03/2006 10:34:25 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: Always Right
Here is more details on this story. The only thing more to the story is how big a buffoon the principal is.

Gotta agree. The principal sounds like an utter dipshit.

72 posted on 04/03/2006 10:35:23 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: SoftballMominVA
Knives have no place in a school.

Why?

73 posted on 04/03/2006 10:36:26 AM PDT by Sloth (Archaeologists test for intelligent design all the time.)
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To: Abathar

How did we ever make it out alive in the 1950's. On some days I would wear my scout uniform and had a pocket knive hanging off the belt.

I don't think the thought of using it as a weapon ever occured to me.

What have we done to our children?


74 posted on 04/03/2006 10:36:58 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Always Right
The only thing more to the story is how big a buffoon the principal is.

it would be gratifying if the hearing were to result in the firing of the principal for being a brainless twit, who should not be allowed near sharp objects or children.

75 posted on 04/03/2006 10:37:06 AM PDT by DeFault User
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To: Always Right
All I said was I didn't like to make snap judgments. I don't like one-sided stories. I don't trust anyone in the media to report anything accurately.

I also noted that if everything the boy says is 100% accurate, I hope he gets everything he deserves. At no point did I defend the principal or his actions. He may very well be wrong--if so, he should be fired. I'd just rather let someone closer to the situation who is in a position to hear all the facts to judge the situation rather than lil ol me sitting here at my computer.

Seriously why does anyone take the word a newspaper at total face value when we've seen over and over how stories are manipulated.

I'm cynical because I've been taught to be this way by my experiences with media. They are out there to sell papers, not report the news.

76 posted on 04/03/2006 10:38:35 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: samadams2000

And Homeschooling!!!

We love it - and wouldn't have it any other way.

Chris


77 posted on 04/03/2006 10:38:52 AM PDT by chris_in_nj (I)
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To: Sloth

Because kids make stupid decisions every day.


78 posted on 04/03/2006 10:39:59 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: El Gato
Why you could hijack a plane with that thing.

If it was one of the ones we had as Boy Scouts, you could take apart a plane with one of those things.

And eat dinner with it afterwards.

80 posted on 04/03/2006 10:40:08 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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