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JAYNA DAVIS - why won't Rohrbacher bring my video interviews before his committee in closed session?
Jayna Davis phone call ^ | 4-3-06 | Doug from Upland

Posted on 04/03/2006 8:13:43 AM PDT by doug from upland

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To: Peach

I just put this thread on the California message board.


121 posted on 04/03/2006 10:33:40 AM PDT by tertiary01 (Why are those who say a fence is not the answer most likely to live behind high walls)
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To: LS

Susan Candiotti: McVeigh changed mind and was given last rites
June 11, 2001 Posted: 4:40 PM EDT (2040 GMT)

Susan Candiotti

CNN Correspondent Susan Candiotti was on the scene shortly after the Oklahoma City bombing in April 1995 and covered most of the events in its aftermath. She was in Terre Haute, Indiana, Monday to report on the execution of bomber Timothy McVeigh.

For Oklahoma City bombing victims, the execution of Timothy McVeigh is one more event that has thrust them on the world stage.

"I was elated," said Susan Ashford. She was chosen in a lottery to be one of the victim witnesses.

But for Paul Howell -- also one of the 10 selected by chance to see McVeigh die by lethal injection-the experience left him feeling somewhat cheated.

Howell lost his daughter, Karan Howell Shepherd, in the murderous attack on April 19, 1995.

"What I was hoping for ... is that we could see some kind of, maybe, 'I'm sorry,' something like that," Howell recalled. "We didn't get anything from his face."

The reason Howell and others were frustrated? They had been longing for the opportunity to stare down McVeigh as he lay strapped to a table.

It was not to be.

The windows were tinted between the witness room and the death chamber. The 10 witnesses were able to see McVeigh's face clearly. McVeigh could not see them. A U.S. Bureau of Prisons spokesman said the windows were darkened to protect the privacy of the witnesses.

As a journalist covering the bombing in April 1995, I never would have predicted the fate of Timothy McVeigh would be resolved more than six years later.

The investigation took innumerable twists and turns. Conspiracy theories abounded. The trials of McVeigh and co-conspirator Terry Nichols held separately in Denver, Colorado, lasted about half a year. The appeals of both men failed.

Who could have predicted, only six days from McVeigh's scheduled May 16 execution, the FBI would admit a blunder that forced the Justice Department to postpone the execution for 30 days?

McVeigh's attorneys battled mightily to win more time to investigate information contained from more than 4,400 pages of material not previously available to the defense.

The FBI argued there was nothing in the documents that raised any doubt about McVeigh's conviction.

McVeigh's lawyers said that was not the point.

They contended McVeigh was cheated by the FBI. That it did not play by the rules. That, if given more time, they might be able to prove a fraud upon the court. If successful, they might be able to persuade a jury to overturn McVeigh's death sentence.

It was not to be. The legal arguments, in a flurry of briefs and oral arguments, ultimately fell on deaf ears.

In the end, with McVeigh's attorneys willing to fight on, McVeigh pulled the plug.

Unrepentant, we were told, to the end.

Until the day he died. Then, things changed.

Prison Warden Harley Lappin offered Tim a Catholic priest. According to McVeigh's lawyer Robert Nigh, Tim said he would consider it.

Nigh said after a 15-minute final meeting with his client during which they discussed whether McVeigh, a self-described agnostic, would see a priest and receive the final sacraments of the Catholic faith, McVeigh agreed.

Strapped to a gurney, McVeigh asked to see a priest.

The Bureau of Prisons says McVeigh received the sacrament called the Anointing of the Sick by an unidentified prison chaplain.

That sacrament includes a confession and absolution of sins.

Did McVeigh confess?

"I think it speaks for itself," Nigh said.


122 posted on 04/03/2006 10:34:07 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: P-40

Quite a few FBI agents are named in Jayna's book who support her research and know there was a cover-up.


123 posted on 04/03/2006 10:34:08 AM PDT by Peach
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To: LS
a traumatic situation at the time she "saw" this.

But for her to see someone, anyone, in addition to McVeigh speaks volumes.
124 posted on 04/03/2006 10:34:26 AM PDT by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: LS

Jones tried. Matsch did not allow the testimony to be entered into evidence.


125 posted on 04/03/2006 10:34:42 AM PDT by TXnMA (Allah is not the Creator. Allah is Shaitan in disguise!)
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To: tertiary01

Oh, thank you so very much, tertiary!


126 posted on 04/03/2006 10:36:38 AM PDT by Peach
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To: LS
That may be true, but it doesn't explain Nichols; nor does it explain EITHER McVeigh's or Nichols' attorneys, who had an obligation to save their clients regardless of "how the guy wanted to be perceived."

Maybe their attorneys were not aware of such evidence. It wouldn't be the first time that a client was not totally honest with his lawyer or withheld information. In any event, the attorneys can't do anything against the wishes of their client nor can they release privileged information. Their "obligation to save their clients" is circumscribed.

Again, think of it this way: all EITHER attorney had to do was to introduce just enough evidence to create reasonable doubt and McVeigh doesn't die and Nichols gets a lighter sentence.

You are assuming the attorney had such evidence. McVeigh would have been sentenced to death whether he had Iraqi accomplices or not. The USG (read Clinton) had a reason to keep such a connection quiet, because it would have forced the US to confront Iraq and Saddam, something that Clinton was reluctant to do. It was much better politically to make OKC the act of White Supremacists

127 posted on 04/03/2006 10:37:07 AM PDT by kabar
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To: LS
McVeigh's attorneys battled mightily to win more time to investigate information contained from more than 4,400 pages of material not previously available to the defense. The FBI argued there was nothing in the documents that raised any doubt about McVeigh's conviction.

McVeigh's lawyers said that was not the point.

They contended McVeigh was cheated by the FBI. That it did not play by the rules. That, if given more time, they might be able to prove a fraud upon the court. If successful, they might be able to persuade a jury to overturn McVeigh's death sentence.

It was not to be. The legal arguments, in a flurry of briefs and oral arguments, ultimately fell on deaf ears.

In the end, with McVeigh's attorneys willing to fight on, McVeigh pulled the plug.

128 posted on 04/03/2006 10:37:11 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: kabar

Clinton was too busy blaming the blast on Rush Limbaugh and "hate radio" to bother letting Janet Reno look into a terrorism connection.


129 posted on 04/03/2006 10:37:59 AM PDT by Peach
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To: LS
McV, N, the attorneys, the prosecutors---to have the whole "expose" come out.

It would not be in the best interests of the government...and they held all the relevant cards. It always sounded like the defense was kept from the tools it needed to do its job and the prosecution was given just enough tools to do theirs.
130 posted on 04/03/2006 10:38:32 AM PDT by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: TXnMA
Ok, so now we have a judge implicated. Start unraveling the ball of string and soon thousands of people are "implicated." It just doesn't wash unless you (not you personally) can explain the actions of the attorneys from the GET GO not to adopt different strategies; from the judges not to allow the material; and so on.

But I've said my piece. I'm open to this, and I plan to read Davis's book. But I'm far from convinced.

131 posted on 04/03/2006 10:39:21 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: doug from upland

Again, even if that's the case, why? Especially if he was only one of an "army?" Why not take his "cause" to the public? Doesn't wash.


132 posted on 04/03/2006 10:40:20 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: P-40

Ok, I disagree. We'll see.


133 posted on 04/03/2006 10:40:40 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: LS

Have you read THE THIRD TERRORIST?


134 posted on 04/03/2006 10:41:41 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland
So why, Congressman Rohrbacher, did you tell Jayna that the committee has no budget to fly her to Washington, D.C.?

No budget???

NO BUDGET???

No budget...my hind foot!!

Sub the word "budget" with "intention"....and I'd believe it.

Heck...I'll fly Jayna to D.C. myself!!

135 posted on 04/03/2006 10:43:13 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: LS
Ok, I disagree. We'll see.

I think you will enjoy Jayna's book...well, enjoy might not be the right word...but it will leave you wondering.
136 posted on 04/03/2006 10:43:21 AM PDT by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: LS

Zacarias Moussaoui testified over the over the strenuous objections of his lawyers.


137 posted on 04/03/2006 10:43:56 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Smokin' Joe
rescue and recovery operations were far from complete.

There was no rescue it was all recovery after day one....
138 posted on 04/03/2006 10:43:58 AM PDT by darbymcgill (FRevolution: The science of mutating concepts and definitions while tap dancing)
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To: doug from upland; Peach
Doug and Peach,

Many thanks to both of you for your continued courage in trying to bring the truth to the attention of the people of America!


139 posted on 04/03/2006 10:45:23 AM PDT by TXnMA (Allah is not the Creator. Allah is Shaitan in disguise!)
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To: doug from upland

I already said it was on my list, but I haven't gotten to it yet.


140 posted on 04/03/2006 10:48:06 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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