Posted on 04/02/2006 9:09:41 PM PDT by Pikamax
Immigration battle has implications for GOP's future
BY DICK POLMAN Knight Ridder Newspapers
PHILADELPHIA - The furor over immigration that is raging in Congress, on radio talk shows, on cable TV shoutfests, and in the conservative blogosphere is actually a high-stakes duel over the image and direction of the Republican Party.
Two powerful factions of the GOP coalition are warring openly - a clash that threatens to further imperil the party's shaky prospects for success in the November congressional elections, while exacerbating internal tensions that could reignite during the 2008 presidential primaries.
The business lobby, which pumps big bucks into the GOP, wants a new law that would enable 11 million illegal immigrants to stay here and work. But if Congress goes that route, it risks prompting millions of grass-roots conservatives (already angry at President Bush's lavish federal spending, his Dubai ports deal, and other perceived missteps) to boycott Election Day. The party can ill afford a revolt by its base, especially since most independent voters, soured by the war in Iraq, don't seem enthused about voting GOP.
Kellyanne Conway, a conservative Republican pollster and strategist, said by phone Friday that a boycott is no idle threat: "This year, more and more would-be Republican voters are glomming on to any excuse they can find to stay home and send a message. If I was a Republican leader, I'd be very careful about banging on that beehive too many times. The immigration issue could be one more excuse to stay home."
These conservatives, furious about the "guest worker" ideas being floated in the Senate, generally want illegal immigrants treated as lawbreakers and sent home - but that idea is perilous, as well. If Congress says yes, it risks sending a broadly anti-Hispanic message that could alienate the increasingly numerous Latino voters whom Bush and Karl Rove view as crucial to their party's future.
Either way, "this is an issue fraught with great political danger," Conway said. And David Frum, a former Bush White House speechwriter, was even blunter on his blog: "Immigration truly is emerging as an issue that can shatter the Republican Party."
If Bush were politically healthy right now, perhaps the conflict would be quickly resolved in his favor (he's with the business lobby). But he has been undercut by an unpopular war, and by Republican attacks on his managerial and political competence, notably concerning Katrina and the ports deal. Factor in the early maneuvering for the 2008 nomination, and you're left with a president at odds with his own party base, and at pains to steer the debate.
Matthew Continetti, a conservative analyst who is finishing a book on the Republican Party, said Friday: "President Bush deserves some credit for trying to take this issue on. He's the first president to basically say, `Look, the illegals are real people, who are here for a reason.' But Bush's weakened status has done damage to his position."
This is all about clashing Republican priorities. Bush, with his business orientation, is an open-borders free-trader who wants to expand the party's reach to Latinos, the nation's fastest-growing electorate. (Latinos constituted 3 percent of all voters in 1980, and roughly 8 percent in 2004.) And Bush himself has made inroads; in 2004, he garnered 44 percent of the Latino vote, more than double the percentage that GOP candidate Bob Dole drew eight years earlier.
Continetti said that Bush's approach is in the Reagan tradition: "It's the difference between an optimistic message and a pessimistic message. The optimistic message is pro-Latino and inclusive. The pessimistic message is, `Build a wall.' And one thing we know is, optimistic messages win."
Grover Norquist, the prominent Washington conservative activist, seconds that argument. He said, "I think we need more immigrants, not less. ... We need to be careful. Republicans can't do to Hispanics what they did to Roman Catholics 100 years ago" - when a prominent Protestant minister, flanked by the Republican presidential candidate at the climax of the 1884 campaign, declared that the GOP was not the party of "Romanism."
Irish-American voters in New York City were enraged; the GOP lost New York state by 1,149 votes, and that tipped the whole race to the Democrats. Moreover, Norquist said, "That comment made Catholics think that Republicans didn't like them. We didn't carry the national Catholic vote until 1994."
A Latino analogy can be found in California, just a decade ago. Republican Gov. Pete Wilson championed a 1994 ballot initiative to deny public benefits to illegal immigrants and kick their children out of the schools. Result: By 1996, every Republican leader in state government had been swept out of office, and the California GOP has yet to recover. The reason: Latino voters saw the GOP message as an insult to all immigrants - and many white independent voters saw the message as broadly intolerant.
Last November, it happened again. Jerry Kilgore, the GOP candidate for governor of Virginia, ran harsh anti-immigrant TV ads in his bid to rally the conservative base - and was trounced anyway.
"He had his head handed to him," said Mark Rozell, a political analyst based at George Mason University in Virginia. "The lesson was that the real core of the conservative base is not big enough to win elections, even in a red state. Kilgore lost suburban counties that Republicans never lose. An anti-immigrant message turns off voters in the middle. So Republicans will have to think seriously about how they handle this issue."
But the GOP's angry conservatives are convinced they are right on the merits of the issue - they see illegal immigrants as threats to the nation's cultural identity, as well as a burden on our social services - and faithful to core Republican precepts.
Conway, advocating a crackdown on illegal immigrants, said: "Isn't it a core principle of conservatism and the Republican Party to stress the importance of the rule of law? Most people don't believe that illegal behavior should be rewarded with ostrichlike behavior."
The conservative talk show hosts, who have been stoking the issue, go a tad further than Conway. Here's Atlanta-based Neal Boortz, last week: "Just where do we store 11 million Hispanics, just waiting to ship 'em back ... ? Where do we store 'em? ... The Superdome! Exactly. And the Astrodome in Houston, that's where we'll put 'em. We've got practice."
They argue that conservatives, by their involvement or absence, will play a key role in congressional races, because many districts are sensitive to small swings in turnout. That's what happened when the Democrats lost Congress in November 1994; a large and pivotal share of their voters simply stayed home.
Moreover, the conservatives cite new polls that appear to show that a majority of Americans side with them on immigration. Case in point: the nonpartisan Pew Research Center for the People and the Press, which reported Thursday that, by 53 percent to 40 percent, Americans want illegal immigrants to go home. And a new Time poll, released Friday, finds that 75 percent think illegal immigrants should be denied access to government services.
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., who wants to run for president, is wooing those conservatives with his own crackdown bill, mindful they'll vote heavily in the primaries - while fully aware that his chief 2008 rival, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., is in the guest-worker camp and thus perhaps vulnerable to a conservative backlash.
But, as with so many complex issues, public sentiment seems to hinge on the framing of the question. The same Time poll sought to gauge support for the House bill that would make it a crime for illegal immigrants to be here and force their deportation. Only 25 percent signed on to that; 72 percent endorsed temporary work visas.
The likeliest scenario is that the Republicans will simply postpone a resolution until after Election Day - in part because they frankly aren't sure how to fuse the warring factions. In the words of strategist Rich Galen: "Here's what I think about the immigration issue: I don't know what I think."
I don't know what happened in the governors race in Virginia but this issue is enough to make me NOT vote for certain politicians this November that I would have before.
I think what Americans really want is to BELIEVE and SEE that the borders will be sealed and secured. THEN talk about possible guestworkers can begin. Just my opinion.
Please contact your senators at the link below. Its very fast and easy!! The issue before the Senate isn't just about the illegals already here - its about letting in hundreds of thousands more each year legally (and illegally if they still do nothing to seal the border)
www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
Actually, it was because Kilgore was NOT adamant enough on the illegals issue, and the fact that Northern Virginia has become an illegal immigrant sanctuary that flipped the vote.
One of the dirty little secrets is the number of illegals in Northern Virginia that do vote, thanks to the motor-voter laws and the total lack of verification asked of registrants.
Organizations like LULAC and La Raza are registering illegals by the thousands, knowing that no one will ever question the forms.
The Congress should try and pass HR4437, or something very similar to it. It will help Republicans hold the Congress this November. The GOP needs to stay away from anything that looks like it might be considered amnesty. Let a temporary foreign worker wait until after the November election. I think no decision at all, is a bad decision.
Likewise.
I told my Congressman and two Senators that I'm making no more donations. Since the Republicans have become a non-conservative party, it doesn't matter which one is in power. Therefore, I'm saving my money.
I think Frist's bill is a very good "compromise" bill. It lands between Kennedy-McCain and 4437--only far closer to 4437.
If the Republicans had any backbone at all, I think their strategy should have been to force 4437 through, and when they met opposition, to offer up Frist's proposal.
That at least gives us no amnesty (or amnesty by another name), a fence, increased number of border guards, and fines against employers who hire these criminals.
the bottom line is this... i said before here and i'll say it again... illegal immigration will be the #1 central issue of the '06 and '08 elections... period, end of story... if the republicans and especially the conservatives within the party buckle to the illegal alien special interests for the sake of corporate welfare, then it's over for them on '06 & '08 with ramifications well beyond that... not to mention the fact that we, as a country will be stuck with nearly unfettered illegal migrations from around the globe...
there are 12 - 20 million illegals in this country and the only arguments against them that can be made is that they are somehow given 'backbone of our economy' status, they are given 'they are the only ones that will do jobs that no one else will' status, they are given ' they are here only to work and raise their family' status, they are given 'if you kick them out and make americans do their jobs then you will pay $1 extra for your strawberries' status... is that what this country has come too...?
this country needs at least a 5 year break from almost any immigration to even out our rolls and yet they flood into this country like the invading diseased hordes that they are... all of your nightmares will come true if the people protesting to legitimize their illegalities is allowed to go forth... stop it now while you can or the face of this country will change for the worse and for good...
HR 4437 is alive and well. The way I see it, its the intention of Congressmen Sensenbrenner, Tancredo and other GOP House members to push for its passage in joint committee session with the Senate. There should really be two separate bills. One for border enforcement/employer sanctions. The other for a temporary foreign worker program.
What do you think are the odds? To quote from another article I just read on FR, the Senate is happy to "legislate into the teeth of the will of the American public".
I'm not very optimistic about an acceptable compromise, esp. given the dastardly maneuver of postponing the vote to avoid political consequences.
We republican voters DO know what to think- We want a wall, and we want immigration laws enforced. Use the military. We want to cut federal funds from "sancturary cities". We want photo ID's required for voting. We want NO driver's license for ILLEGAL ALIENS. I think that most of us actually DO know what to think. And, if GWB and the Republican Senators don't get a clue real fast, we're looking at losing BOTH houses of Congress in "06, and the presidency immediately thereafter by impeachment.
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An illegal immigration law that grants amnesty is pouring gasoline on the fire...A LOT OF GASOLINE!
To those of you who are new to our land it is imperative that you understand our history and culture for we are a nation that is guided by rule of law. Our nation has survived the past two hundred and thirty years adhering to pretty much one single document, THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. It is with in its framework that guarantees the freedoms many immigrants seek.
For the most part, this country thought out its history welcomes all who come to work hard, and follow the laws to make a better life for themselves. Everyone must understand that if you have come here illegally your presence undermines the rule of law and weakens the foundation this nation is built upon. The individuals who hire you to do the work that most Americans s will not do are also complicit in the subversion of our laws. They only seek profit over following the law, which in my opinion is treasonous and denigrates / exploits the value of the person or persons working for them.
Those who hire an illegal partake in a form of slavery, which was eradicated during our own Civil War. Mind you, a half million Americans gave their lives so many could live free. A point that must be remembered. Make no mistake about it, your presence here and working illegally is tantamount to slavery. You contribute, but do not have the same rights as a legal citizen. You are being exploited and that is morally and ethically wrong. Lets see Cardinal Mahoney defend that one. Speaking of
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Most regrettably, speaking as a Catholic. In my opinion Cardinal Mahoney is derelict in his duties advising his follower's to ignore any law that places restrictions on the aiding of a person breaking Federal, State and local laws. How the Cardinal finds the moral high ground for stating such is beyond me. The Catholic Church would not have survived as long as it has without the rule of law. There are basic tenants of Catholicism that one must follow to actually be a Catholic in its truest sense. There are also basic tenants for being an American Citizen and one of them is following the laws of the land whether you like them or not! If you do not like them, work to change them. Till their changed, follow them or get the hell out!
Now some advice to our Congressman here, seal the border first! If you truly want to help the undocumented worker and the citizens of our nation that border must be sealed! Failing to seal the border is treasonous and unfair to those who would participate in any worker program. Failure of the this United States government not to seal its boarder against invasion and abdicating its constitutional responsibility to do so breaks the contract with its citizens and therefore in my opinion relinquishes its ability to level taxes upon its citizens. If State and Local governments also fail to protect its citizen by not enforcing current laws it to forfeits the right to collect taxes. I believe citizens of this country are under no obligation to pay taxes to government not acting in its behalf by not enforcing the current rule of law!
To the illegal immigrant, your numbers have swollen to the point that any economic gain that is made by your presence is being eviscerated by the absorption of social services and problems associated with a sub-culture. This country can no longer ignore your presence and must find a way to deal with the situation in an orderly legal matter. One other point must be made here. My advice to the illegal community is not to over play your hand here. You may be 30 million strong, but there are 270 million legal citizens who are getting rather impatient with the lack of leadership coming out of D.C. Please, if you want to demonstrate great
loose the Mexican flag and find yourselves some red, white and blue stripes to wave. It will go along way in helping your cause with the American public. If you want to waive a foreign flag in protest you are free to go home and do so in the land of that flag, NOT HERE!
The undocumented worker must pay close attention here. By our government failing to seal the border; by default will erode any achievements made in a new law or set of regulations that might on the surface seem like it will be helping you, but might ultimately will hurt you. Not sealing the border will just displace the newly documented worker with another illegal that will work for a lesser wage. The absolute advantage will shift to the illegal once again!
For all who wish to enter this country legally and make a better life for themselves I wish you the best of luck in pursuing your dreams and ambitions. Your contributions to our economy, culture and society are welcomed with open arms.
No one man or group of persons can place themselves above the law. This idea is dangerous and outright treasonous. The abdication of rule of law by a large number of people will in a short time destroy what you the illegal immigrant orinally came here for, a better life. It is the rule of law that enables this nation to offer people a better life. If the 250 million legal citizens of this nation chose to not obey our laws, we would quickly degenerate into anarchy. Therefore we must deal with your presence in a legal way. For not doing so will give the de facto right to all the other inhabitants of this nation to behave in what ever manner they so desire. By not following the rule of law you will see how quickly we become like the place you sought to escape.
NO AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS
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