Posted on 04/02/2006 12:53:12 PM PDT by KDD
Outstanding. Thanks for posting.
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Thus it is not a matter of merely time for Islam to temper itself. Islam can only 'reform' by becoming the opposite of what its core text mandates, i.e. by becoming vigorously un-Islamic. Given that this is the case, what is the point of even using such terminology?
I am beginning to think Islam will be 'reformed' the way Shinto was.
But the Mohammedans who mindlessly chant "Death to Christians" might find your comment "insensitive," and the ACLU certainly will not allow that!!!
Better to arm yourself, and get in some target practice. The war is coming.
Great piece. Thanks for posting.
Thank you. I hope little hope for the "modernizing" or "moderation" of Islam, unless by some miracle millions of Middle Easterners began to copy the secularist Turks. I visited Istanbul about six years ago, admittedly the most secular area in Turkey. The attitude of many Turkish people I met towards Islam was similar to the attitude most Japanese have towards Shinto --- religion as purely spiritual and cultural --- not political and militarist.
Unfortunately, most Japanese arrived as this attitude after atomic bombs fell on Hiroshima & Nagasaki.
...The Muslim immigrants to these areas were not seeking a new way of life when they arrived; they expected to continue their old lives, but more prosperously. They neither anticipated, nor wanted, the inevitable cultural tensions of translocation, and they certainly never suspected that in the long run they could not maintain their culture and their religion intact. The older generation is only now realizing that even outward conformity to traditional codes of dress and behavior by the young is no longer a guarantee of inner acceptance (a perception that makes their vigilantism all the more pronounced and desperate). Recently I stood at the taxi stand outside my hospital, beside two young women in full black costume, with only a slit for the eyes. One said to the other, Give us a light for a fag, love; Im gasping. Release the social pressure on the girls, and they would abandon their costume in an instant.
Anyone who lives in a city like mine and interests himself in the fate of the world cannot help wondering whether, deeper than this immediate cultural desperation, there is anything intrinsic to Islambeyond the devout Muslims instinctive understanding that secularization, once it starts, is like an unstoppable chain reactionthat renders it unable to adapt itself comfortably to the modern world. Is there an essential element that condemns the Dar al-Islam to permanent backwardness with regard to the Dar al-Harb, a backwardness that is felt as a deep humiliation, and is exemplified, though not proved, by the fact that the whole of the Arab world, minus its oil, matters less to the rest of the world economically than the Nokia telephone company of Finland?
I think the answer is yes, and that the problem begins with Islams failure to make a distinction between church and state. Unlike Christianity, which had to spend its first centuries developing institutions clandestinely and so from the outset clearly had to separate church from state, Islam was from its inception both church and state, one and indivisible, with no possible distinction between temporal and religious authority. Muhammads power was seamlessly spiritual and secular (although the latter grew ultimately out of the former), and he bequeathed this model to his followers. Since he was, by Islamic definition, the last prophet of God upon earth, his was a political model whose perfection could not be challenged or questioned without the total abandonment of the pretensions of the entire religion.
But his model left Islam with two intractable problems. One was political. Muhammad unfortunately bequeathed no institutional arrangements by which his successors in the role of omnicompetent ruler could be chosen (and, of course, a schism occurred immediately after the Prophets death, with sometodays Sunnitesfollowing his father-in-law, and sometodays Shiiteshis son-in-law). Compounding this difficulty, the legitimacy of temporal power could always be challenged by those who, citing Muhammads spiritual role, claimed greater religious purity or authority; the fanatic in Islam is always at a moral advantage vis-à-vis the moderate. Moreover, Islamin which the mosque is a meetinghouse, not an institutional churchhas no established, anointed ecclesiastical hierarchy to decide such claims authoritatively. With political power constantly liable to challenge from the pious, or the allegedly pious, tyranny becomes the only guarantor of stability, and assassination the only means of reform. Hence the Saudi time bomb: sooner or later, religious revolt will depose a dynasty founded upon its supposed piety but long since corrupted by the ways of the world.
The second problem is intellectual. In the West, the Renaissance, the Reformation, and the Enlightenment, acting upon the space that had always existed, at least potentially, in Christianity between church and state, liberated individual men to think for themselves, and thus set in motion an unprecedented and still unstoppable material advancement. Islam, with no separate, secular sphere where inquiry could flourish free from the claims of religion, if only for technical purposes, was hopelessly left behind: as, several centuries later, it still is.
The indivisibility of any aspect of life from any other in Islam is a source of strength, but also of fragility and weakness, for individuals as well as for polities. Where all conduct, all custom, has a religious sanction and justification, any change is a threat to the whole system of belief. Certainty that their way of life is the right one thus coexists with fear that the whole edificeintellectual and politicalwill come tumbling down if it is tampered with in any way. Intransigence is a defense against doubt and makes living on terms of true equality with others who do not share the creed impossible.
Not coincidentally, the punishment for apostasy in Islam is death: apostates are regarded as far worse than infidels, and punished far more rigorously. In every Islamic society, and indeed among Britains Muslim immigrants, there are people who take this idea quite literally, as their rage against Salman Rushdie testified.
The Islamic doctrine of apostasy is hardly favorable to free inquiry or frank discussion, to say the least, and surely it explains why no Muslim, or former Muslim, in an Islamic society would dare to suggest that the Quran was not divinely dictated through the mouth of the Prophet but rather was a compilation of a charismatic mans words made many years after his death, and incorporating, with no very great originality, Judaic, Christian, and Zoroastrian elements. In my experience, devout Muslims expect and demand a freedom to criticize, often with perspicacity, the doctrines and customs of others, while demanding an exaggerated degree of respect and freedom from criticism for their own doctrines and customs. I recall, for example, staying with a Pakistani Muslim in East Africa, a very decent and devout man, who nevertheless spent several evenings with me deriding the absurdities of Christianity: the paradoxes of the Trinity, the impossibility of Resurrection, and so forth. Though no Christian myself, had I replied in kind, alluding to the pagan absurdities of the pilgrimage to Mecca, or to the gross, ignorant, and primitive superstitions of the Prophet with regard to jinn, I doubt that our friendship would have lasted long.
The unassailable status of the Quran in Islamic education, thought, and society is ultimately Islams greatest disadvantage in the modern world. Such unassailability does not debar a society from great artistic achievement or charms of its own: great and marvelous civilizations have flourished without the slightest intellectual freedom. I myself prefer a souk to a supermarket any day, as a more human, if less economically efficient, institution. But until Muslims (or former Muslims, as they would then be) are free in their own countries to denounce the Quran as an inferior hodgepodge of contradictory injunctions, without intellectual unity (whether it is so or not)until they are free to say with Carlyle that the Quran is a wearisome confused jumble with endless iterations, longwindedness, entanglementuntil they are free to remake and modernize the Quran by creative interpretation, they will have to reconcile themselves to being, if not helots, at least in the rearguard of humanity, as far as power and technical advance are concerned.
...And the problem is that so many Muslims want both stagnation and power: they want a return to the perfection of the seventh century and to dominate the twenty-first, as they believe is the birthright of their doctrine, the last testament of God to man. If they were content to exist in a seventh-century backwater, secure in a quietist philosophy, there would be no problem for them or us; their problem, and ours, is that they want the power that free inquiry confers, without either the free inquiry or the philosophy and institutions that guarantee that free inquiry. They are faced with a dilemma: either they abandon their cherished religion, or they remain forever in the rear of human technical advance. Neither alternative is very appealing; and the tension between their desire for power and success in the modern world on the one hand, and their desire not to abandon their religion on the other, is resolvable for some only by exploding themselves as bombs.
People grow angry when faced with an intractable dilemma; they lash out...
...But the anger of Muslims, their demand that their sensibilities should be accorded a more than normal respect, is a sign not of the strength but of the weaknessor rather, the brittlenessof Islam in the modern world, the desperation its adherents feel that it could so easily fall to pieces...
...the problem is that so many Muslims want both stagnation and power: they want a return to the perfection of the seventh century and to dominate the twenty-first, as they believe is the birthright of their doctrine, the last testament of God to man. If they were content to exist in a seventh-century backwater, secure in a quietist philosophy, there would be no problem for them or us; their problem, and ours, is that they want the power that free inquiry confers, without either the free inquiry or the philosophy and institutions that guarantee that free inquiry.
Theodore Dalrymple Nailed It !
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Immediately. No point in prolonging the inevitable.
Out of 6 billion people in the world, 1 billion are Muslims. Apparently a large percentage of that 1 billion are crazy enough to think they can dominate the rest of us and return their "golden age" of Islam Empire, and would love to use nuclear weapons on us.
Let's say it's only 10 percent crazies out of 1 billion Muslims (though I fear it's much more). That's still a lot of Islamofascists with a thirst for fission.
These folks are crazier than the Nazis or Fascist Japan.
Such crazy people must NEVER be permitted to get their hands on nukes --- which they are desperately working to do.
Outstanding.
The crazies already have the Bomb. Pakistan set one off in the late 1990s. Pakistan is far less stable many another ME nation tottering on the brink.
Bump.
My first thought as well.
GREAT points!
I went to "here" and didn't find any links to anything specifically regarding Islam. Little came up however in one link or another. Is there anything in specific that he's written in the meantime that is significantly different than the above?
bump to read later
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