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But we are even told to be baptised after Jesus' death.

Full Court - I wonder if possibly the Baptists interpret our stance on baptism as saying that the death of Jesus was not sufficient to save us - that it just was not good enough.

But that is not at all the case.

None of us could be saved if not for Jesus - we would be under the rule of law like the Old Testament and one sin could condemn us as we are never perfect enough. We would be giving animal sacrifice after animal sacrifice to buy atonement.

But all through the Bible God gave man instructions on what he wanted and many times the instructions were things that could not possibly bring about the major objective but the instruction being followed as God told them to do, accomplished the task.

An example - the walls of Jericho.

God advised Joshua he had given Jericho into his hands.

Now - he said He had given Jericho to Joshua. Nothing else should be needed - right? But, He told Joshua to march around the city once with all men. Do this for six days. On the seventh day, march around the city seven times with the priests blowing the trumpets. Then the walls will collapse.

Now - we all know marching around a city seven times with trumpets will not make walls come tumbling down. But following the instructions of God made those walls come down.

We don't know "why" God expected it to be done that way - but He did and Jericho was delivered as stated to Joshua.

All of us are trying to serve Jesus. We should be able to discuss and investigate differences without condemning each other or disparaging each other. Otherwise, automatic war lines are formed and people will defend their belief no matter what.

And, if we discuss differences - both of us learn to understand each other better and learn more.

According to other CoC'er's anything spoken before Jesus died does not really apply. So would you like to start with that?

That is not what he meant. The Old Testament was the rule of law and if one law was broken then it was as if all laws were broken. We study the Old Testament for the history of God but we are not under that rule. God's views are the unchanging and we learn about God.

However, God sent Christ as the one time sacrifice for man and therefore his death paid the price once and for all for those that believe on Christ. The old rule of law requiring animal sacrifice was no more.

We now are under the dispensation of Jesus and the New Testament and those instructions are meant for us today. We have been given the most wonderful gift of Jesus and all we are required to do is accept that gift, repent of our sins, be baptised and walk anew with Christ. (as per the instructions given in the New Testament.)