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To: pnz1; Skip-h; yukong; ClancyJ
A "Church of Christer" or anyone else for that matter here on Earth cannot tell you if you are going to Heaven or Hell.

Then they all need to shut up and stop proclaiming that they do know you will go to Hell if you are not baptized.

237 posted on 04/02/2006 8:34:58 PM PDT by Full Court (Baptist History now at www.baptistbookshelf.com)
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To: Full Court

Well, Full Court, I didn't say that you or anyone was going to Hell. And I have never heard a member of the church of Christ say who will or will not go to Hell. That is up to God's judgment. But what I do know is that I believe that God, through his word, and his son has told me that I must be baptized to be saved. I have worked out my salvation. I was baptized for the remission of sins. I was buried with Christ in the waters of baptism. I died to sin in that grave. I then, like Christ, joined him in his resurrection, alive again, a new creature. Spotless and sin free. His blood, through the waters of baptism washed away my sins. And was therefore added to His church. I cannot speak for you. That is between you and God. But once again, you have never answered my question regarding I Peter 3. Remove the word that isn't there. Now or Not?


243 posted on 04/02/2006 8:41:40 PM PDT by yukong
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To: Full Court

I see that you included me in an answer to someone else, but I am asking you to respond to my very first post.

Just give me a scripture which shows anyone in the new testatment who was ever saved without being baptized. Listen to the Apostle Paul relate his conversion to the Jews. Saul was blind, after the Lord appeared to him on the road to Damascus, he was led into the city and for three days he waited. Begin at verse 12 of Acts chapter 22: "And a certain Ananias, a man who was devout by the standard of the Law, and well spoken of by all the Jews who lived there, 13 came to me, and standing near said to me,' Brother Saul, receive your sight!' And at that very time I looked up at him. 14 "And he said, 'The God of our fathers has appointed you to know His will, and to see the Righteous One, and to hear an utterance from His mouth. 15'For you will be a witness for Him to all men of what you have seen and heard. 16'And now why do you delay? Arise, and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His name." NAS

Please show some degree of humility by refraining from using your mean spirited defense of calling me a liar. If you must call someone a liar, use the writer of Acts, I gave you his words, not ones that I made up.


257 posted on 04/02/2006 8:57:50 PM PDT by Skip-h
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