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To: abigailsmybaby

Bush wanted to make illegal aliens pay a FINE for being here illegally before they applied for a work visa and allowed to stay.

Since that's punishment, then you are satisfied with that plan?


440 posted on 03/31/2006 5:33:40 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Bush wanted to make illegal aliens pay a FINE for being here illegally before they applied for a work visa and allowed to stay.

Wrong.

Bush's proposal has the guest worker paying a "one time fee".

This will be the same "one time fee" that folks not here illegally will pay to get a guest worker visa, after all the illegals get one first.

So, there is no fine, and they get a visa before law abiding aliens.

Feel free to check out the White House fact sheet, which I've posted on FR many times.

450 posted on 03/31/2006 5:42:09 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Nope. They aren't citizens. I want them deported.

I'm a citizen. When I break the law and get caught I pay the fine whether it's monetary or prison time or both. The punishment for being an illegal alien is deportation which is very seldom levied on the perpetrator. Catch and release.


453 posted on 03/31/2006 5:45:23 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ("This is the sort of English up with which I will not put." Winston Churchill)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

"Since that's punishment, then you are satisfied with that plan?"

The fines are ridiculously low. They amount to less than the entitlement spending that each illegal eats up in one year. Granting legal status will triple the entitlements. The fines are an empty gesture and do not target the MAJOR criminals who employ illegal labor in the first place.


455 posted on 03/31/2006 5:46:03 PM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Bush wanted to make illegal aliens pay a FINE for being here illegally before they applied for a work visa and allowed to stay.

"Since that's punishment, then you are satisfied with that plan?"

*That's exactly what they did in the 1986 amnesty, except inflation has brought the price up. So no...on my part.


462 posted on 03/31/2006 5:53:13 PM PST by Rick_Michael
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To: Luis Gonzalez
McCain/Kennedy makes them pay a fine. Is that ok with you?
576 posted on 04/01/2006 4:55:52 AM PST by mthom
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