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Matisyahu and race: Is it okay for white Jew to sing reggae?
Chicago Jewish News ^ | 3-30-06 | Liel Leibovitz

Posted on 03/30/2006 6:09:47 PM PST by SJackson

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To: SJackson
“The onus is on Matisyahu to articulate more explicitly what his cultural approach is in relation to this black cultural form,” he said.

The guy likes reggae. Calm down.

41 posted on 03/30/2006 9:47:49 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: SJackson

Matt knows he's a minstrel act. he is no different than the 1000's of other Jewish suburbanite teen boys raised in the NYC burbs who moved to music to get stoned and laid in high school. Nothing wrong with that, I come from 4 generations of Jewish musicians.

I know dozens of other Jewish musicians our age we grew up around here who are by far better musicians.

To fully understand where Matisyahu comes from, listen to his unreleased song about White Plains high school. The spirituality was his "hook" to get the religious girls to put out, and he turned it into a career. He's still the 17 y.o. phishhead, add a few years of yeshiva study, but it's still a heavy stoner under that Lubavitcher facade.

http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=18680
disc 2 song 2

I've been to some small pre 1st record release gigs of matisyahu's, I couldn't resist seeing this schtick.
In between sets I grilled Matt and Alon Cohen about reggae, house, hall, dub, steel drum bands/musicians that are generally considered standard repetoire for reggae artists, trying to get a feel on where he came from, Matisyahu was blank on most of them, Josh Werner jumped in and took over the conversation. I also immediately saw Matisyahu as another Perry Farrell type, and they've since found each other.

I get a kick out of Matt stealing Jewish symbology BACK from the anti-Semitic Rasta culture.


42 posted on 03/30/2006 9:54:06 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: Nachum
My kids love him.

And so do I, as others say, he rocks! My daughters were raving about him, and gave me his album as a gift last year. The Jewish lyrics are so much better than the drivel put out by some other reggae singers (although I do also like Bob Marley music).

43 posted on 03/30/2006 11:08:27 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Alouette

This critics name is Kalefa, as in Khalifa. His views are probably colored by TROP. I don't care what he thinks..


44 posted on 03/30/2006 11:20:25 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: SJackson

He's a good reggae singer.

Either listen to him or don't, as you prefer. Quit whining. Stupid author, creating a fuss about nothing.


45 posted on 03/30/2006 11:36:05 PM PST by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
If you're not angry at me about the other thread, check out this one - this is the singer I was telling you about.

i've seen Matisyahu in concert - he's a very talented guy.

46 posted on 03/31/2006 5:21:55 AM PST by wideawake
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To: SJackson
A white Englishman who performed under the name of Judge Dread in the mid-1970s had a number of chart-topping reggae hits in both the UK and Jamaica.

he was close personal friends with Jamaica's premier reggae DJ, producer and artist (until Bob Marley took his crown) Prince Buster.

Sanneh is a dumbass who doesn't understand the history of reggae music, and is apparently unaware of the fact that Bob Marley was as white as he was black.

I suppose that Sanneh doesn't listen to music by Jimmy Cliff or the Ethiopians or other seminal reggae acts because some of their music was written and almost all of it was produced by Leslie Kong, a Jamaican who must have been a "cultural appropriator" because he is Chinese, not black.

47 posted on 03/31/2006 5:27:24 AM PST by wideawake
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“As Matisyahu comes from the Chasidic perspective,” said Forman, “O’Connor carries her well- known Catholicism into the mix.”

Ridiculous. O'Connor is most famous for ripping apart a photograph of the late Servant of God Pope John Paul II on live television - she is clearly an apostate, not a Catholic.

48 posted on 03/31/2006 5:30:53 AM PST by wideawake
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As proof of sorts, Forman mentioned that the industry itself refrained from labeling Matisyahu’s music as reggae.

Matisyahu doesn't perform reggae exclusively - some of his tunes are reggae, some are melodic beatbox tunes and some are kind of neo-psychedelic jams.

Categorizing his music as "alternative" is proof of nothing.

49 posted on 03/31/2006 5:33:21 AM PST by wideawake
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To: JerseyHighlander

"I get a kick out of Matt stealing Jewish symbology BACK from the anti-Semitic Rasta culture."

Me too! That's what I think is the best about him.

Matisyaho is ok. I'm personallu more a fan of dub like mad professor type stuff and also the more roughneck ragga styles.


50 posted on 03/31/2006 6:12:06 AM PST by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: wideawake

yup


51 posted on 03/31/2006 6:12:54 AM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: JerseyHighlander

"To fully understand where Matisyahu comes from, listen to his unreleased song about White Plains high school. The spirituality was his "hook" to get the religious girls to put out, and he turned it into a career."

I grew up on Long Island - not far away. If that's what he was looking for, he should have just joined USY. :)


52 posted on 03/31/2006 6:13:19 AM PST by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: SJackson
I think his music is crappy.. especially when he speaks with a NYC accent. It is like watching a Disney character... or the reincarnation of Vanilla Ice
53 posted on 03/31/2006 6:15:15 AM PST by Porterville (Si Se Puede!!! We can stop businesses hiring illegals!!! Si Se Puede!!!)
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To: JerseyHighlander

How many rastas do you know? Do you know anything about rasta culture? I worked for rastas for years and never heard an antisemitic thing ever. I've never heard antisemitic reggae either and they played that stuff ALL THE TIME. I'm not into the really hardcore Buju Banton type stuff. Matisyahu and Bob Marley is as reggae as I get.


54 posted on 03/31/2006 6:17:49 AM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Rastafarianism is a black supremacist religion.

There are several "houses" of Rastafarianism. The one Marley belonged to - Twelve Tribes of Israel - is not black supremacist.

They actually consider themselves to be a branch of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, and many of these Rastas have been received formally into that church.

There are other "houses" that are openly racist and who perceive Marley to be a talented but wussy sellout.

55 posted on 03/31/2006 6:24:11 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
Everyone's heard of this guy. Of course, I don't have any of his CD's since 99.999% of my music is on vinyl and cassette (the only CD player I have is the one in my computer). And I don't even know what an i-pod is! (And the only MP3 players I have are the programs in my computer. I have no idea about these portable MP3 players or how to get music for them.)

I think us rednecks should sue the Black community for appropriating our dialect.

56 posted on 03/31/2006 6:35:29 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Hachodesh hazeh lakhem ro'sh chodashim; ri'shon hu' lakhem lechodshei hashanah.)
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To: SquirrelKing

Yeah mon!


57 posted on 03/31/2006 8:59:08 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: cyborg

I knew a few Rastas in Brooklyn and got no "heavy manners". No beef..


58 posted on 03/31/2006 9:04:47 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: sheik yerbouty

LOL! wow...


59 posted on 03/31/2006 9:05:22 AM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: SJackson

Well, "Day-Oh" was written by a Jew, and sung by a black (Belafonte) who seemed to specialize in fake "calypso" songs, and that was apparently alright.


60 posted on 03/31/2006 9:55:41 AM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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