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Atom Breaks Rules, Beats Friction
Live Science ^ | 30 March 2006, 02:05 pm ET | Bjorn Carey

Posted on 03/30/2006 11:50:15 AM PST by The_Victor

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To: RadioAstronomer
The work is interesting, though the write up is nauseating. Of course the damn thing doesn't violate Newton's Third Law.

Actually, it sounds more like an example of a rotational Born-Oppenheimer effect. The molecule is in such a high rotational state, the surrounding water molecules simply see an average over the rotational wavefunction.

41 posted on 03/30/2006 2:04:09 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: The_Victor
The molecule heated up to 8,000 degrees Fahrenheit (4,427 Celsius) and started spinning at a furious 270 trillion rotations per minute.

Clockwise or counterclockwise???

42 posted on 03/30/2006 2:09:22 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!!)
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To: The_Victor
The molecule's activity also runs against Newton's third law of motion, which states that for every action there is an equal, but opposite, reaction.

That's a statement of the conservation of momentum. If this violates momentum conservation, the article doesn't say how.

43 posted on 03/30/2006 2:09:35 PM PST by Physicist
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To: Physicist
That's a statement of the conservation of momentum. If this violates momentum conservation, the article doesn't say how.

I found that rather suspicious too, but I was sure my mechanical engineering brain attempting to imagine this was just missing some mysterious subatomic/quantum effect.

44 posted on 03/30/2006 2:23:29 PM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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bump for later reading


45 posted on 03/30/2006 2:24:12 PM PST by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: Willie Green
Clockwise or counter-clockwise???

Depends. North or south hemisphere?

46 posted on 03/30/2006 2:44:19 PM PST by Enduring Freedom (Senator Allen on Democrats: "...let's enjoy knocking their soft teeth down their whiny throats.")
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To: Enduring Freedom; shaggy eel
Northern hemisphere, I assume...
I don't know anyplace south of the equator where they can measure this stuff.
Maybe Australia or New Zealand, perhaps...
but the Aussies and Kiwis are upside down...
I'd think that'd make the water spill out of the beaker.
47 posted on 03/30/2006 2:54:14 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!!)
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To: Right Wing Professor
though the write up is nauseating. Of course the damn thing doesn't violate Newton's Third Law.

I didn't think so either. However, thought you still would like to see what they were doing. :-)

48 posted on 03/30/2006 2:57:55 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: The_Victor
Scientists have found a molecule that can spin freely in liquid, clearing out water like a person swinging suitcases would clear a crowded room.

I am speechless at how bad this analogy is....

49 posted on 03/30/2006 3:03:01 PM PST by Kaylee Frye
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To: Willie Green
I don't know any place south of the equator where they can measure this stuff.

The former Rhodesia has an Advanced Center for the Destruction of Wealth, Neurons and Rationality. Perhaps they could help?

50 posted on 03/30/2006 3:07:22 PM PST by Enduring Freedom (Senator Allen on Democrats: "...let's enjoy knocking their soft teeth down their whiny throats.")
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To: Kaylee Frye

Like a dishwasher rotor clogged with day-old fettucine?


51 posted on 03/30/2006 3:08:57 PM PST by Enduring Freedom (Senator Allen on Democrats: "...let's enjoy knocking their soft teeth down their whiny throats.")
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To: The_Victor

This proves that zaps are stranger than friction.


52 posted on 03/30/2006 3:15:44 PM PST by LexBaird ("I'm not questioning your patriotism, I'm answering your treason."--JennysCool)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

bfl


53 posted on 03/30/2006 8:42:35 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: The_Victor

What a bunch of crap.


54 posted on 03/31/2006 12:39:29 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Willie Green
or New Zealand, perhaps...

,,, anything's possible on welfare Willie!

55 posted on 03/31/2006 3:40:51 AM PST by shaggy eel
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To: Kaylee Frye
I am speechless at how bad this analogy is....

I think ..."like a person swinging angry wet cats on bungi cords in a crowded vet clinic" would have been no worse, and a lot more interesting. You know, something people could relate to.

56 posted on 03/31/2006 5:54:38 AM PST by TN4Liberty (Sixty percent of all people understand statistics. The other half are clueless.)
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To: Willie Green; Ultra Sonic 007
Clockwise or counterclockwise???

I suppose that depends on the directon of the toilet swirl in your locale ;>

57 posted on 03/31/2006 6:17:23 AM PST by ImaGraftedBranch ("Toleration" has never been affiliated with the virtuous. Think about it.)
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To: Enduring Freedom

Indeed, just like that. :)


58 posted on 03/31/2006 7:39:30 AM PST by Kaylee Frye
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To: TN4Liberty

Hehe, at least it's laugh-worthy. :)


59 posted on 03/31/2006 8:19:47 AM PST by Kaylee Frye
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